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Tonight's Game: Orlando Magic at Detroit Pistons; UPDATE: Orlando's Carter (ankle) to Start, Detroit's Hamilton (ankle) and Prince (back) Inactive

Orlando Magic at Detroit Pistons, Nov 3, 2009 7:30 PM EST


2009/2010 NBA Season
Orlando Magic main logo
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Detroit Pistons main logo
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November 3rd, 2009
The Palace of Auburn Hills
7:30 PM
FSN Florida
Probable starters:
Jameer Nelson PG Rodney Stuckey
J.J. Redick SG Ben Gordon
Vince Carter SF Jonas Jerebko
Ryan Anderson PF Charlie Villanueva
Dwight Howard C Ben Wallace
Game Officials
Steve Javie
Joe Forte
Eli Roe

The Orlando Magic will attempt to make their first 4-0 start in team history tonight against the Detroit Pistons, a particularly unfriendly foe. It's the perfect "trap game" for Orlando, as it's the more talented team, and its opponent is missing arguably its best player; Richard Hamilton sprained his ankle in the Pistons' season-opener and is out tonight, so free-agent signee/supersub Ben Gordon will start in his place.

Vince Carter, himself coming off an early-season ankle injury, hopes to return to the Magic's lineup tonight, and he will if he makes it through shootaround feeling okay. Without him, the Magic didn't miss any beats offensively, with J.J. Redick lighting up the Toronto Raptors for a Carter-like line of 27 points, 6 rebounds, and 5 assists.

The game tips at 7:30. Detroit was the only Eastern team against which the Magic went winless last year, so even without Hamilton, this one could wind up challenging the visitors.

UPDATE: Brian Schmitz of the Orlando Sentinel filed this report at around 1 today, so it's several hours old. Still, here's what we know about Carter's availability tonight:

The Magic will make a game-time decision on whether shooting guard Vince Carter (sprained left ankle) will play tonight against the Detroit Pistons, but small forward Mickael Pietrus (flu-like symptoms) remained home in Orlando.

Carter particpated in shootaround Tuesday morning, but said he would decide during warmups.

UPDATE 2: Not injury-related, but interesting nonetheless, is this tactical note from the Detroit Pistons' official Twitter:

[Coach John] Kuester says Pistons will try to do some things early in game vs. Orlando to get Charlie V, averaging only 9 ppg, going offensively.

UPDATE 3: Vince Carter will play tonight, reports John Denton of OrlandoMagic.com. More shocking is the news, via the Detroit Pistons' official Twitter, that Tayshaun Prince will sit out with a lower back strain, which ends his consecutive games-played streak at 496.

UPDATE 4: Also from the Pistons' Twitter is the news that rookie Jonas Jerebko is expected to fill-in for Prince at small forward tonight. Jerebko has appeared in one game this season, playing 6 minutes, during which time he recorded 2 rebounds and 2 fouls. He has yet to attempt a shot at the NBA level.

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Who will takes MP's minutes?

JJ?

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I was talking about the minutes off the bench.

What the rotations would like with Vince, but not MP.

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, I see.

We’ll probably see another “unconventional” lineup.

With Barnes resting, I imagine the ideal lineup would be Nelson, Reddick, and Carter at SF. Or perhaps two point guards and Carter/Reddick like we saw against Toronto.

by thermodynamic on Nov 3, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Vince may see some time at 3, he may not.

Van Gundy could throw out a three-guard lineup (Nelson, Johnson, Redick) like he did against the Raptors, given that the Pistons play small. Really, Stan could do anything. That’s the beauty of having such a versatile roster – it’s open to numerous lineup combinations.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

If Vince doesn't play, it'll be the same starting lineup as in the Raptors game.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

rec

Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
Keep Sleeping on Orlando...

by BS Patrol on Nov 3, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

rec

I am so, so tired of seeing the Magic lose to the Pistons. I was at game 3 of the Pistons-Magic series in the 2008 playoffs, and a Detroit fan was sitting right next to me, shouting “DEEEE-TROIT BASKETBALL” the whole time. The Magic won that game, but pretty much everybody there knew Detroit was going to knock the Magic out again, just like they did in 2007 and 2003. Even last year, when we were NBA finalists and Detroit got swept by Cleveland in the first round, we couldn’t beat them. I know I’m saying stuff everybody here knows, but damn I am sick of the Pistons.

Kill ’em guys.

by Tim333 on Nov 3, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

The match ups worry me a bit on defense.

Can Ryan and Bass cover Charlie V? They didn’t do a great job against Bargnani, and Charlie is more talented in some respects.

Gordon in the back court. Not sure if Carter can keep up with him. Nelson will have his hands full with Stuckey.

by thermodynamic on Nov 3, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

I think Ryan matches up better vs Charlie V than Bosh or Bargs, way better. The offense isn’t runnin through the 3 so we don’t have to worry as much about Tay’s D and with Rip out I just don’t see the crippling D that has haunted us. JJ is gonna have to hit his shots though.

I know what Bo dont know.

by D-RAK on Nov 3, 2009 4:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hooray for night classes...

Only 8 more months…

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Nov 3, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

Time to excercise the demons!!

Two game home-and-home with a game against the Suns squeezed in between is as good a time as any to get the monkey off our backs when it comes to the hated Pistons. Get it done! If we can’t beat this team, well then…I dunno. We’d suck!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

I'd rather exorcise them

The demons don’t need any more exercise.

:P

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Nov 3, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I can't spell! lol

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Latest on Vince?

Anyone have anything new?

Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.

by KingJafi on Nov 3, 2009 4:45 PM EST reply actions  

Game-time decision.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Did we already label this game a loss yet? Will save some time :P . 3-1. Tay will prolly explode, who never does bc is always consistent instead, but just having 1 Piston from that era will be enough. After that, Detroit will click a light bulb on and say hey, we need your center Gortat, take Tay’s contract. Boom, done.
Jameer- Carter- Prince- Lewis- Dwight
Jason- MP – MP/MB- Bass/Ryan- Bass

by derekk on Nov 3, 2009 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

Lol.

No.

Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.

by KingJafi on Nov 3, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Hehe I think the Magic are too different and better now but I do love the idea of adding Prince !

by derekk on Nov 3, 2009 6:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

FSNHD 718

It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."

by ben_gleicher on Nov 3, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

channel 1000

for both brighthouse and fsn hd at least in the central florida area of brighthouse. i don’t think tonights game is on HD.

by MagicMark on Nov 3, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

scratch that

1031 for sun sports hd and 1050 for fsn hd they just put these channels in not even 30 minutes ago.

by MagicMark on Nov 3, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks Man!

I would’ve NEVER found the game in HD without that. :)

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, Tayshaun is not playing.. Good to hear VC is back tho.

by derekk on Nov 3, 2009 6:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Don’t be surprised by Austin Daye tonight. I realy like his game. He’s compared himself to Rashard Lewis.

by derekk on Nov 3, 2009 6:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I call him Daye-shaun because he plays similar to Prince.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

You know, part of me wishes Vince Carter didn't play.

With Hamilton and Price out, not like the Magic need him.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2009 7:04 PM EST reply actions  

Yea, me too abit but I truly think VC is fine.

by derekk on Nov 3, 2009 7:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

SVG should watch Carter's minutes carefully

…especially with the back-to-back tomorrow night.

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Magic are favored by 8 1/2 points

…with an over/under of 193.

Bring on the big, bad Pistons!

Go Magic.

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 7:18 PM EST reply actions  

IF we SOMEHOW don't win this game tonight . . .

Then there REALLY IS a Detroit curse!!!

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

Redick starting at the 2, Carter starting at the 3.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

Interesting

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

an unrelated note

but washington is beating cleveland by 12 in the first quarter of their game @ cleveland.

by MagicMark on Nov 3, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions  

nba league pass

only reason i can watch this game is the free trial of nba league pass which ends tonight, making me sad. don’t really want to pay the $169 special to get the entire season.

by MagicMark on Nov 3, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Magic will be in national TV so many times this season...

for that reason I’m not getting League Pass.

I’ve enjoyed the free week preview, though.

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah...I was watching this on my league pass

They’re up by 14 after 1…What is the deal with Cleveland?

by MightyMouth on Nov 3, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions  

no offense

has always been their problem, only now they cant defend the pick n roll at all….that and arenas is looking pretty beastly in just about every game since he has been back.

by MagicMark on Nov 3, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

The real question is...Is Washington this good?

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

they beat dallas in dallas

they will definitely be a playoff team, but seeding is up in the air right now.

by MagicMark on Nov 3, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

read earlier today

it was a site-wide design/format/layout change (all of sbnation’s hosted sites)

by MagicMark on Nov 3, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

We have to bring out "A" game tonight...

Role players usually always step up when key guys are out. This is a classic “trap” game.

by MightyMouth on Nov 3, 2009 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

There's a lid on the rim!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 7:48 PM EST reply actions  

bad foul Dwight

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 7:50 PM EST reply actions  

Yes.

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

He's only 21... he has a lot to learn yet

He can only get better defensively.

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Comcast Jacksonville = Lame!

It appears that Comcast here in Jacksonville did not pick up the bonus package offered to them by Fox Sports Florida to show all Orlando Magic games here. Any peeps here from Jax who are subscribed to Comcast? I already filed a petition so they will consider adding the games to their line up. Please help me out by sending them an email thru their website. If there’s more demand, they might consider.

by jax502 on Nov 3, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

This is some ugly offense from both teams!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

Very slow start for Magic

2 for 8 shooting… VC is 1 for 5.

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

Vince needs to start driving to the basket.

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

passing

need to move the ball some more, we have very little passing going on so their defense can kinda stagnate around the paint and take away easy shots

by MagicMark on Nov 3, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Get that SHOT outta here!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions  

Magic getting outrebounded 10-4

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 7:57 PM EST reply actions  

Just about to mention that.

It doesn’t give me a good feeling about tonight. I hate detroit as much as LA, Cle and Boston.

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

so I'm kinda glad I'm not watching right now

considering how the comments are going…

I'm a girl.

by TheGiantSquid on Nov 3, 2009 7:58 PM EST reply actions  

This is UG-LY!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions  

This is gonna be a long game...

against a team we should be dominating. This is why it’s so hard for a team to win 70 games. These “trap” games can set you back.

by MightyMouth on Nov 3, 2009 8:00 PM EST reply actions  

This is gonna be the Magic's worst quarter of the season, by far

…but there’s still three more quarters left.

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 8:00 PM EST reply actions  

17-10 Pistons

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

17-12

We’re on a roll! lol

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

19-14 after 1 period,

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

errr whats happening

I just turned the game on. This isn’t right.

by RussL on Nov 3, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions  

Pistons aren't shooting well either

But their 37 1/2% is better than the Magic’s 27%.

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions  

5 point deficit

is amazing at this point in time. vince needs to stop trying to make up for the shots he couldnt take against toronto and pass the ball.

by MagicMark on Nov 3, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Yikes.

Carter is the only one finding open shots. They are playing solid defense and killing us off the glass.

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions  

could have been worse

we only had 8 points through the first 10 minutes, scored 6 in the last minute and 45 seconds

by MagicMark on Nov 3, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Magic wind up shooting 33% for the quarter at 7 for 21

VC leads with 6 pts but is just 3 for 9.

Pistons outrebounded the Magic 16-10.

Stuckey has 10 to lead them.

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions  

I effing hate the Pistons

I blame all the world’s ills on them

I'm a girl.

by TheGiantSquid on Nov 3, 2009 8:12 PM EST reply actions  

White Chocolate coming in and making a quick 3!

Maybe that will take the lid off the rim…

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:12 PM EST reply actions  

Is Maxiell still a Piston?

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions  

There have been some ridiculous foul calls tonight.

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions  

is anyone watching a decent stream online?

the one i found is awful

Nah' mean, nah'm sayin

by Dr Things on Nov 3, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

HALP!

Nah' mean, nah'm sayin

by Dr Things on Nov 3, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

And just like that, it's tied!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

Just came in

Saw the stats from the 1st qtr. Im a little suprised at how even with Rasheed’s absence, Orlando struggles against the Pistons…

"My features are that of a god, its not a facade these rappers wanna be NaS"- Nasir Jones QB's Finest

Founder and only member of the Kristin Kreuk Appreciation Society, and future Husband

Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

The lid is off!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

this is much better

seems like we haven’t missed int he 2nd quarter

by MagicMark on Nov 3, 2009 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

The crowd is so quiet in the Palace that they can't even muster enough effort to groan...

Never thought I’d see the day!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

haha....

A lot of empty seats.

This should be an easy win…..we are not making it look like it so far.

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow....my internet went down for a minute

When it came back up we had about a 10 point swing. I like it.

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

Long climb uphill back in the game

I’m stunned we still struggle against the Pistons even in Sheed’s absence

heh, I say “we” yet Detroit were my 2nd fav team

"My features are that of a god, its not a facade these rappers wanna be NaS"- Nasir Jones QB's Finest

Founder and only member of the Kristin Kreuk Appreciation Society, and future Husband

Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

and Rips and Princes.

And we are struggling.

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Va-JJ for 3!

We FINALLY take the lead!

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

Va-JJ?

*splutters * oh GOD.

I'm a girl.

by TheGiantSquid on Nov 3, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Just a term of endearment . . .

I thought you’d appreciate it! ;)

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

no I dooooo

it’s beautiful *wipes tear from eye *

I'm a girl.

by TheGiantSquid on Nov 3, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha . . .

glad I could bring a smile to your face :)

Feel free to use it anytime!

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

3rd foul on Dwight. Crap!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

that didn't take long.

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Pass...the...ball!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

missed a wide open JJ

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Will Bynum is a heck of a player for Detroit

"My features are that of a god, its not a facade these rappers wanna be NaS"- Nasir Jones QB's Finest

Founder and only member of the Kristin Kreuk Appreciation Society, and future Husband

Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

He looks like Stucki's child

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice non-defense!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

If by nice you mean PATHETIC . . .

then i concur.

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Last night of enjoying free League Pass.

We better win.

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 8:24 PM EST reply actions  

Nada for Ryan Anderson yet

0 for 3 from the field.

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

JWill for three!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

Magic 3 for 10 now on 3s

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

Nice J-Will

"My features are that of a god, its not a facade these rappers wanna be NaS"- Nasir Jones QB's Finest

Founder and only member of the Kristin Kreuk Appreciation Society, and future Husband

Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

This is just painful to watch on the offensive end!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

JWill with 6 off the bench

Tied with VC to lead the Magic.

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

3 seconds? Kwame was just camping out in the paint!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

Redick is 1 for 6 so far shooting

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

This is totally not sarcasm. I kno u love JJ :P

by derekk on Nov 3, 2009 8:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Dad's Tobacco Free commercial is hilarious! lol

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

Haha I agree

by derekk on Nov 3, 2009 8:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Kwame Brown has quietly found his niche in Detroit and become somewhat of a serviceable player

"My features are that of a god, its not a facade these rappers wanna be NaS"- Nasir Jones QB's Finest

Founder and only member of the Kristin Kreuk Appreciation Society, and future Husband

Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

At least the Magic are taking relative good care of the ball

4 TOs only.

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

on the bright side

this game is absolutely going to raise our defensive numbers hahah

by MagicMark on Nov 3, 2009 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

Glad to see Denton is back covering the Magic

He is one of the best reporters in the business…much better than Brian Schmitz

by MightyMouth on Nov 3, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

These refs blow!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

Pistons have attempted 15 FTs to 2 FTAs for the Magic

ORL 36 DET 34

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 8:35 PM EST reply actions  

it looks like that's b/c

the pistons drive and the magic are settling for jumpers. no?

by magicfaninTN on Nov 3, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Go Va-JJ!

Do ur thang boy!

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

Anyone know what the ESPN Insider article talked about

with JJ earning a “big pay day?”

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 8:37 PM EST reply actions  

Nothing, just recognizing it's his contract year.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Stop living by the 3, take it in, these Pistons are not the Pistons of old in the panint

Jeeze…

"My features are that of a god, its not a facade these rappers wanna be NaS"- Nasir Jones QB's Finest

Founder and only member of the Kristin Kreuk Appreciation Society, and future Husband

Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 8:37 PM EST reply actions  

Damn Mason....

No Deeeeeetroit Baaaasketball?

"My features are that of a god, its not a facade these rappers wanna be NaS"- Nasir Jones QB's Finest

Founder and only member of the Kristin Kreuk Appreciation Society, and future Husband

Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, it's weird not hearing him being all obnoxious!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Bass isn't good at getting off the pick and roll.

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by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

These refs really blow!

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

haha . . .

very punny.

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by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

What an ugly half...but we still escape with the lead!

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

Glad that's over.

We are taking way too many threes and they just aren’t falling.

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by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

The tempo of this game favours Detroit too much

I dont think this game ends with an Orlando win…

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by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

Can't fault them, Detroit's been more aggressive and regardless of personnel....They a

They always play Dwight tough with their bigs….which precisley why Boston concerns me looking ahead.

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by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

And I can fault them for some of the calls...

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

It depends on which team comes out after the half . . .

If it’s the same team that played quarters 1 & @, then i agree!

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by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to take away from Ryan Anderson's good start to the season...

but when he’s not hitting 3’s, he’s pretty much just another body out there. That is why Rashard is our starting 4. At least he’s a post up threat and plays pretty above average d.

by MightyMouth on Nov 3, 2009 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

Tru but . . .

he’s just a BABY!

He’ll learn what to do soon enough.

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by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

He's still trying to adjust to Orlando's defensive scheme, that's pretty obvious.

And you can’t accuse Ryan of just being another body out there when his threes aren’t falling, he’s more than adept to post up and take it to the basket off the dribble (did it in the second quarter for a layup).

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Ryan can score in the post...

He was all over the post scoring vs. NJ.

He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

by 3.3seconds on Nov 3, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Halftime stats

Magic are shooting 42%, DET 37%

Magic 5 of 18 from long range.

Pistons are outrebounding Magic 23-21.

DET 12 of 17 from the free throw line… Magic 0 for 2.

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

Orlando's defense is completely different without Gortat or Howard out there.

Detroit wasn’t afraid to attack the paint.

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by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2009 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

And yeah, the Magic need to attack the Pistons in the paint.

I don’t mind the threes, just need to recognize the personnel on the court.

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by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2009 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, he just needs to stay out of foul trouble.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

If it wasn't for the bench, the Magic would be screwed.

Helps to have so many weapons because one of them is bound to go off.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2009 8:50 PM EST reply actions  

Barnes has 5 boards to lead the Magic

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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 8:50 PM EST reply actions  

I won't be surprised if Dwight gets a ton of touches to start the third quarter.

Need to establish him in the paint, then everything else should follow.

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by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2009 8:51 PM EST reply actions  

yeah

this is usually what they try to do in the 3rd if his effectiveness has been limited in the first half due to foul trouble etc. usually it works out pretty well hopefully he’ll have another 20 point third quarter like that one game earlier in the year (cant remember if it was preseason or not)

by MagicMark on Nov 3, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Hawks game.

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by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

VC and Anderson a combined 0 for 8 from long range

We’re not used to seeing that.

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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, this is a worst-case scenario.

Dodgy officiating + everyone’s in foul trouble + nobody’s shot is falling.

And guess what? We’re still winning at halftime on sheer defensive toughness.

He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

by 3.3seconds on Nov 3, 2009 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

I like to add before I leave here in a second, the Magic might need to win this game with defense.

Part of that is predicated on Dwight Howard staying on the court, to deter the Pistons from attacking the basket.

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by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2009 8:53 PM EST reply actions  

Alright folks, enjoy the rest of the game.

Seems like a nice turnout here, let’s hope the Magic beat the Pistons. For once.

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by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2009 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

Have a good one, E!

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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

This ref #64 must have money on the game!

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

Dwight is holding his shoulder again. FA-UCK!

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

would be nice to get a call

suspect officiating to begin this half already

by MagicMark on Nov 3, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Great job by JJ.

Looked like Darrell Armstrong there.

This shoulder is going to be a lingering injury for D12 with as much as he bangs inside.

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by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

Eek!

Have they diagnosed what it actually is?

by ggrant on Nov 3, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't heard anything.

I would be surprised if he dislocated it and just stretched the tendons.

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by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

This is ugly on both ends.

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by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

christians fight some times too.

i say he needs to beat the hell out of some one to get people to think before they slap at him as hard as they can.

by magicman775 on Nov 3, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Gortat's gonna have to step up here in the second half

Looks like D12 might be having more shoulder problems.

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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

VC is in FULL CHUCK MODE . . .

sigh :(

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by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

RA too!

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by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Jerebko's a hustler

That Dwight shoulder is a worry

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by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

I would guess the only remedy for it is rest.

Which considering the season is here, sucks.

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by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

WOW . . .

This game has a REAL bas feel to it . . .

REAL BAD :(((

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by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

Vince keeping us in the game here in the 3rd!

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:10 PM EST reply actions  

VC on target this half

He’s got 15 pts total on 3 of 6 from long range.

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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 9:11 PM EST reply actions  

Pistons have attempted only 4 threes

…and haven’t made any.

But they are outscoring the Magic 15-0 from the FT line.

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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

With Howard out...

This is anyone’s game…especially with the way Gortat has looked this season.

by MightyMouth on Nov 3, 2009 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

But he's a starter.....

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by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Why's everyone worrying though?

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Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions  

Best tag team ever

D12 and SVG.

I think they could take out the Steiner Brothers.

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by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions  

Dwight back in the game.

Curious…

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions  

A little pain-killing shot?

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by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

'Bout Time!

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by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions  

Ryan finally hits a 3!

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions  

1 for 7 now from 3 for Ryan

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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Talking about the schedule, the way it set up was...

1. rematch of round 1
2. Reunion with CLee, et al
3. Reunion with Hedo
4. Renewed rivalry with nemesis (Pistons)
5. Reunion with Grant Hill
6. Another rivalry game with Pistons.

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions  

4 fouls on D12

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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

Dwight gets another quick foul! BAH!

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

Goddammitt....there goes the feed :(

Anyone got a spare link? lol

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by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

NBA Broadband League Pass

is still free through tonight.

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by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

uh.. high quality, not high def. I don't think.

It’s a good looking stream though.

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

International version aint free...

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Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Doh. Sorry man.

Where do you live?

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by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

UK, luckily one dude just said he's switching over after the last 2 mins of Wiz-Cavs

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Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

HOLY CRAP VC!

DRIVE the D@MN BALL!!!

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by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions  

MOVE THE BALL

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions  

Bynum overacting a bit, don't ya think?

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

yup

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by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha

‘Meer just dragged him. He didn’t care just didn’t want a flagrant.

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by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

The Pistons tv guys

are over-reacting a bit.

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by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

This is really a pathetic display...

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

LATE FOUL PLUS a T???

AWESOME . . .

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by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

are you serious?

golly.

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by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

Behind the back dribble and fade away by JJ?

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

Oh no . . .

JJ’s pissed now . . . WATCH OUT!!!

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by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

Hi guys

Just got in, and don’t have %$&^ FSN. Looks like a low scoring game

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I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Nov 3, 2009 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

Both teams shooting under 40%

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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

that ref #64 is f'n useless!

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions  

Eli Roe

Don’t have my ref stats to hand, so I don’t know how he’s been previous years

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by The Dark on Nov 3, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, he's sucking it up tonight.

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Boston's the best team in the NBA so far...and it's not even close..

Not saying the Magic can’t get there…but, they’re definitely not there now.

by MightyMouth on Nov 3, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions  

They are playing with a ton of energy....

We’ll see if that will last considering their age.

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Nov 3, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The Magic still are missing Rashard Lewis.

If Boston can use the KG excuse, I guess it’s okay for us to use it.

by ggrant on Nov 3, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying the Magic won't be better as time goes on...

But I haven’t been impressed so far. Their three point shooting has masked a lot of weaknesses these first 4 games….Boston is beating teams by 30 on a nightly basis.

by MightyMouth on Nov 3, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

And Orlando's missing their best perimeter defender and an All-Star power forward

As well as having another All-Star playing injured. Their biggest weakness right now is that they’re relying on their reserves to beat other teams’ starters.

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Nov 3, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

our team is not together yet either.

shard will bring our d around. i agree boston healthy is the team to beat

by magicman775 on Nov 3, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Who got a T?

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

Ah, on Dwight...

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

Game. Set.

???

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by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

Detroit's strategy...FLOP!

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

67-62 Pistons

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

If Detroit could play the Magic every night . . .

They would be a DYNASTY.

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by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

DRIVE...TO...THE BASKET!

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

Bynum can't miss!

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

If we're going to lose this game anyway . . .

Then why not let Dwight play?

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by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

Wow...the power of the mind

Different players…same uniform…same result.

by MightyMouth on Nov 3, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

This game proves 2 things:

1) We’re not as deep as we all got excited into thinking
2) Detroit beats with the most simple of moves. For all the ability of the magic to suck people into unorthodox plays, a fundamental can beat them.

For now, Boston still is better than Orlando

For the love of god, drive to the basket….you’re playing on offense like well, Detroit used to lol

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Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

When our 3's aren't falling...

we look very ordinary. We can’t afford to lose games like this when the playoff seeding is on the line…especially when Boston is looking unbeatable like this. This is gonna come back to bit us.

by MightyMouth on Nov 3, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree with point #1

The entire team is having a bad night, can’t say that means we aren’t deep. If Dwight gets in foul trouble, that effects the entire flow of the team. It will take time for everyone to adjust to nights like these. It won’t happen over night.

Also, yes, drive to the basket!

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Well look at the last game at the Toronto game for instance

Without VC and Peaches playing one of our most crucial spots was left to JJ to run. And if Dwight is in foul trouble and it causes the whole team to be out of sync then it only further drives the point.

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Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

So we were without 3 starters and one was dinged up (Dwight), yet we still won.

Name another team in the league that would have accomplished such a feat.

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

The point of being called a deep team is knowing you can garuntee the guys on your bench will come out with the same confidence

I just cant see that consistency if those starters go out…and again if Dwight Howard has foul trouble and he goes out and the team struggles (despite the opportuinty to then run an alternative offense to say VC) then maybe the team in “deep” in the traditional sense.Thats kinda my point

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Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you are overreacting a bit to one bad game in week 2 of a long regular season.

There are going to be nights like these for every team, even the good teams with deep benches. Relax, understand that it’s a learning process with so many new pieces added to the puzzle and that the team will get better. To say we aren’t deep because we have one bad game is a bit crazy IMO.

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just skeptical of our deepness. On paper sure, in the preseason fine

But the matchups and the players in question can be streaky (Vince, J-Will, Ryan even) so I’m not that confident in saying “hey we can beat so and so because we’re deep” because I still feel these are matchups that can be easily exposed with the right team.

Not hating, still optomistic, but just noteworthy

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Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

True it is early but its a still something worth addressing this early I feel..

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Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

3) Any team can win on any given night.

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Nov 3, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I second this comment

Open-hand slaps are too inefficient

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I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Nov 3, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Bynum took a shot to the chops . . .

AAAAAAAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha . . .

ha :)

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by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions  

Wow Magic got away with a foul there

Gortat with the obvious poke in the eye.

It was inadvertent, but should have been called a foul.

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

which led to the fast-break layup by Barnes

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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

cavs 102, wizards 90

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I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Nov 3, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Still not driving to the hoop.

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

Magic have missed 9 threes in a row

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

Thunder 73, Lakers 71 at the end of the 3rd

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Nov 3, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

Everybody has bad games now and then

We’ll need to see how he does next time out

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Nov 3, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Stop chucking Ryan, Dude is on sheed Wallace ish tonight

Especially with all that space Detroit has in defense. Ugh shit makes me wanna get 94-96 Penny to drive in the lane.

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by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

Buh bye . . .

sigh :(

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

Terrible shooting night for Nelson

3 for 11.

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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions  

Gortat with 5!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions  

I'm sensing a very interesting press conference from SVG after this game

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Nov 3, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

$25K interesting?

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Maaaaybe

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Nov 3, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Dwight fouled out in 17 mins...

All the explanation you need for this score.

by Swami Digital on Nov 3, 2009 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

This game isn't over

Magic can still win despite everything

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah too much pessimism...

But it’s probably because it’s Detroit.

by Swami Digital on Nov 3, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

This is the type of shit that makes you think the NBA is fixed...

foolishness…calls have been so one-sided…it’s not even funny

by MightyMouth on Nov 3, 2009 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

Javie last year

62 games
64.5% home team win percentage
Home team +3.6 points over away team
195.3 points/game
38.8 fouls/game
51.5% of fouls on away team

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Nov 3, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Eli Roe

In 2008-2009 when he was on a crew (52 games):

71.2% home team win percentage
Home team +5.4 points over away team
199.5 points/game
44.1 fouls/game
50.7% of fouls on away team

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Nov 3, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, the Detroit guards as usual have a field day against Orlando, Stuckey, Byum, plus no Pietrus. And then the Magic decided to a) play like only 3 pointers existed and b) played Ryan 3x as many minutes he was deserving of especially w his rebounding and defense and c) no defense from Magic guards and d) no ball movement and offensive chemistry. Jameer was looking for 3s when he has an even better midrange and needs to driving and probing more. Atleast Jameer can look to improve over time but why was Bass playing so little when Ryan was so horrible?
Despite it all, if you asked me to believe many of those calls were fair, I’d still have a real hard time believing it and would love nothing more than to rewind the game tape to get just a slightly reasonable explanation on some calls.
One thing for sure, Magic have alot of work to do.

by derekk on Nov 3, 2009 10:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Gortat gone too?!

This is a JOKE!

A SAD, SAD, joke :’(

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

Detroit is being the far more aggressive team tonight

Magic aren’t even trying to drive the lane; therefore, Pistons are getting the calls.

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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions  

It's ironic because thats the thing that kinda lost the Pistons a title in 05-06

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by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

FUCK THESE REFS!!!!!

IM SORRY FOR THE LANGUAGE, THIS IS MY FIRST AND ONLY POST FOR 2NITE.

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by magic12ball on Nov 3, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

No worries . . .

UR vulgarity is warranted!

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Just gotta say

Were playing terrible, but the officiating has been equally atrocious. Granted, we should be running away with this game with Prince and Hamilton out, but man theyre doing everything in their power to make us lose. And Ryan Anderson needs to quit shooting this game.

Shaq sucks.

by Paul Finger on Nov 3, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions  

Cant blame the refs, Detroit just were aggressive and challenged the frontcourt of Orlando

This is a key matchup to remember…and something to remember when playing against someone like Boston. Rondo has similar speed and tenacity as Bynum, the frontcourt is as aggressive as Boston’s.
Def something to move on with

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Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 9:58 PM EST reply actions  

Copy/paste

I’m not blaming the refs, just calling out the refs for some pretty pitiful officiating tonight. The Magic have done themselves no favors!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea these kinda games w Detroit are good barometers against Bos and La. I may actually think the offense needs more work. Zero ball movement, little attacking the rim and being aggressors. Dwight playing so little and Pietrus/Lewis missing wouldve helped the defense alot more than what the offense was like tonight. SVG has to work in a few PR sets with the PGs, Vince and get Jameer to be more aggressive. How weird it must be for Pistons fans to see them still beating the Magic all the time while rebuilding? Lol

by derekk on Nov 3, 2009 10:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Game?

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions  

Game.

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions  

Tough call...

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Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions  

WOW

F*** THESE REFS, F*** DETROIT.

Shaq sucks.

by Paul Finger on Nov 3, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions  

Pathetic!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions  

I really thought after Sheed going the Magic would get over the Detroit hump

lol@ Ben Wallace showing up like its 2003

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Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

Yep… WTF

by derekk on Nov 3, 2009 11:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Relax guys, it's one game.

These things happen, you don’t win every single game you think you will.

by Swami Digital on Nov 3, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

Its only a concern because we can see a senario where the team can unravel.

And this team excecuted in a way that Boston specfiically could

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Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm very disappointed in Jameer's play tonight

He was not aggressive, shot just 3 of 11, and committed 5 TOs.

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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

Thank goodness the rematch is Friday night

I hope they learned something from tonight and will turn things around Friday against the Pistons.

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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

I just pray for different officials.

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Nov 3, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Deftly

by derekk on Nov 3, 2009 10:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That was absolutely horrible.

Waste of a night watching that game. Hope to never see another like that. I can’t afford to break any more furniture.

I am the world's best basketball player! *

* Among those with no skills whatsoever

by JayPar16 on Nov 3, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

P.S. RIP my nice new computer desk

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* Among those with no skills whatsoever

by JayPar16 on Nov 3, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Personal Fouls tally for the night?

Orlando 30
Detroit 17

Unbelievable.

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions  

How many technicals and offensive fouls?

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by malars on Nov 3, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Big Ten officials taking a cue from the SEC?

I would hope SEC officials would actually favor the team from the southeast, given that they don’t call an even game.

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Nov 4, 2009 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s what happens when you jack 3’s the whole game, refuse to play near the basket, and the one guy who does play near the basket is on the bench the whole night.

by pjlawrence81 on Nov 3, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Worst

F’ing officated game I’ve seen in a long time…worse then Lebron in the playoffs

by Jbyrd on Nov 3, 2009 10:07 PM EST reply actions  

we played awful,

but i haven’t seen a game officiated that one-sided since lakers/kings game 6 in ’02

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by mhetrick14 on Nov 3, 2009 10:07 PM EST reply actions  

Well I gotta go puke now . . .

Goodnight to all my fellow sadists.

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Nov 3, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

Thankfully my roommate just came back with a sub

Or else my cat would be dead by now

Shaq sucks.

by Paul Finger on Nov 3, 2009 10:10 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Magic wound up 10 of 35 on threes

… and shot 37% from the field, compared to 37 1/2% for Pistons.

Pistons were 31 of 38 from the FT line, Magic were 12 of 16.

Magic had 15 TOs, the Pistons 9 TOs.

Just a bad, all-around game for the Magic, but at least they have a chance to get even Friday night.

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 3, 2009 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

Atleast

I can look forward to SVG’s post game interview

by Jbyrd on Nov 3, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

Also:

Where was Vince in the 4th qtr? Need to fix that.

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Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E

by Wasabi Steak on Nov 3, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

I'm guessing SVG decided to give him limited minutes to recover.

It also looked like he stepped on Bynum while coming back on defense during one possession.

by thermodynamic on Nov 3, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Tweaked his ankle, sat out the fourth quarter.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

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by erivera7 on Nov 4, 2009 6:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I am not watching the Pistons anymore...

the most boring team in the league.

The Magic need to learn how to play an ugly game. Threes are sexy, driving to the hoop is ugly.

by Mr.Hoss on Nov 3, 2009 10:16 PM EST reply actions  

JJ and Ryan need to put their heads down

and get into the lane to make contact. They both can shoot FTs. Ridiculous.

by magicfaninTN on Nov 3, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe every word Donaghy says.

Sure Detroit was more aggressive, that doesn’t mean it’s reasonable for both of Orlando’s centers to foul out in a total of 40 minutes. How many fouls were called on jump shots? How many offensive fouls were called on the Magic? I’m sorry but the Magic will be sending the league the tape from this game.

It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."

by ben_gleicher on Nov 3, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

12 fouls in 40 minutes. Says a lot.

And don’t give me the….they just drove to the basket more business. That’s only part of it.

by magicfaninTN on Nov 3, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Ryan needs a cap on his trigger

SVG needs to put a limit on the # of 3s he can jack before he has to lower his head and go for a layup. Say maybe shoot 5 then drive? That’s easy to remember.

by magicfaninTN on Nov 3, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

Wow.

Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
Keep Sleeping on Orlando...

by BS Patrol on Nov 3, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

This seems to be Eli Roe's first game of the season.

Would’ve thought he was one of the D-League trainees carried over from the lockout.

by magicfaninTN on Nov 3, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

only one other ref last year has a higher home team win % and reffed for >52 games. but his % of home/away team fouls is statistically more balanced than tonight’s game.

by magicfaninTN on Nov 3, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Two – Greg Willard (73.3%) and Mark Ayotte (71.9%). Jack Nies (who reffed 41 games) also had a higher home win %.

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by The Dark on Nov 4, 2009 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

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