Tonight's Game: Orlando Magic at Milwaukee Bucks
by Evan Dunlap on Nov 28, 2009 3:00 PM EST
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| 2009/2010 NBA Season | ||
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| 12-4 | 8-6 | |
| November 28th, 2009 | ||
| Bradley Center | ||
| 9:00 PM | ||
| FSN Florida | ||
| Probable Starters | ||
| Jason Williams | PG | Brandon Jennings |
| Vince Carter | SG | Michael Redd |
| Mickael Pietrus | SF | Carlos Delfino |
| Rashard Lewis | PF | Ersan Ilyasova |
| Dwight Howard | C | Dan Gadzuric |
| Game Officials | ||
| Ed Malloy | ||
| Tony Brown | ||
| Gary Zielinski | ||
The Orlando Magic will try to win their 7th game in 8 tries when they visit the Milwaukee Bucks at the Bradley Center tonight. ESPN was nice enough to treat a national TV audience to the Bucks' game against the Oklahoma City Thunder last night, which confirmed what several of us already suspected: Thunder forward Kevin Durant is very, very, very special. It also afforded everyone a look at the Bucks, who are somehow above .500 after Thanksgiving despite having to run side screen-and-rolls with Carlos Delfino and Dan Gadzuric.
Well, I say "somehow" like it's a mystery, but it isn't: the Bucks, coached by former Magic point guard and notorious hardass Scott Skiles, defend exceptionally well, ranking 8th in defensive efficiency coming into tonight's game. But that ranking has fallen with center Andrew Bogut sidelined with a bruised leg, and as such the Bucks are quite vulnerable in the middle.
I believe you see where this is heading: the Magic have Dwight Howard, fresh off a 22-point performance against Atlanta on Thanksgiving, and the Bucks employ Gadzuric and Kurt Thomas' Reanimated Corpse manning the pivot. If Howard can't light up those two--although Thomas is still a heady defender who is always ready to take a charge--then there might be something wrong with him.
But as the Thunder demonstrated last night, one need not have a dominant, back-to-the-basket big man in order to exploit the Bucks' deficiency inside. Durant, Jeff Green, and Russell Westbrook drove the ball to the basket relentlessly. OKC didn't settle for too many jumpers. This is a night for Vince Carter to put his head down, drive, draw fouls, and sink free throws. Same for Rashard Lewis, Jason Williams, and J.J. Redick. I'd include Mickael Pietrus in that group, but I'm not sure I'd want him dribbling more than he absolutely has to.
Offense shouldn't be much of a problem for the Magic, given the weapons at their disposal. And without Bogut in the middle on offense, the Bucks become perimeter-oriented, relying on jumper after jumper after jumper. Sharpshooter Michael Redd hasn't been himself lately, coming off an injury, so he doesn't worry me too much. Nope, the focal point for Orlando's defense will be rookie point guard Brandon Jennings, who scored 55 points in a game a few weeks ago, in case you hadn't heard. The Thunder bottled him up last night by sending an extra defender at him, and thus forcing the ball out of his hands. Letting a guy with Jennings' court vision find the open man can sometimes be risky, but when that open man is Gadzuric or Charlie Bell, you can exhale a bit, you know? Williams' lateral mobility is just about shot, but he should be alright against Jennings as long as coach Stan Van Gundy occasionally sends double-team help.
Tip's at 9. This is the Magic's 3rd game in 4 nights, and the first part of a yet another back-to-back set. Put 'em away early, get some rest, and prepare for the quicker-than-hell New York Knicks tomorrow. Sound good?
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ohhh..
D12 vs Dan Gadzuric.. Get him the ball immediately..
I watched Milwaukee last night they looked gassed. Jennings was cold and Red was off. Interested to see if they come out slow again or get hot to make up for last night.
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"Notorious hardass Scott Skiles" lmao
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Great game preview Ben lmao. Also, looking at Vince Carter’s name in white (All Stars should be in Yellow) gets really annoying after awhile.
I think VC will stand a good chance of being an All-Star this year.
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No AI clogging up the East
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
Magic are 6 1/2 point favorites
…with an over/under of 195.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions
Ilyasova is Turkish
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Oh
I guess I missed your point. No worries.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Hedo is Turkish
Badabing badaboom Magic will win tonight
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah he is
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Gotta admit
I’m conflicted tonight. Orlando (my 2nd favorite team at the moment) and Milwaukee (my 3rd favorite team) are going at it. Decisions, decisions as to which game thread I should participate in.
Sigh, it’s tough being me. (Yeah, right.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Milwaukee's
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Heh.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
It ain't gonna matter
Milwaukee will lose big if Orlando brings it’s B game.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Looks like a game for our frontcourt.
I mean, we really should be able to score on Ilyasova and Gadzuric. Dwight needs to keep going like he did on Thursday. And if Shard isn’t getting the job done, I want to see Ryan out there. He’ll score points.
As for the Bucks… well, I can’t imagine Jennings has that much experience with back-to-backs. Given how much he’s relied on his speed so far, I see that fact being crucial. (If not, this could be problematic… I love J-Will, but defending a fast guy is not really his thing.) But basically, Milwaukee is a team in a bit of a slump, battling some injuries, and while we’re not RESTED rested, we’re more rested than them.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
I don't know why Bow Tie's are back en vogue
But they are ugly.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Pietrus would turn it over on the first play
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
Is the world officially over now that Peaches traveled?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
2 quick fouls on Gadzuric, neither on Dwight. Oops!
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
Hey guys. I hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving.
"We got more gongs than the break dancing robot that caught on fire"-Homer J. Simpson
I did
How about you?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Yeah, not too bad.
"We got more gongs than the break dancing robot that caught on fire"-Homer J. Simpson
The big Magic win over the Hawks really made it nice :-)
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Especially since it was on TNT right? LOL
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
It was fun seeing how many names Dick Stockton got wrong
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
LOL heh.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I think at one point, he called Al Horford 'Tito'!
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
...and he called Vince Carter "Anthony Carter"
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
LOL That's awful
Supremely at that.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I was too busy stuffing my face. :)
"We got more gongs than the break dancing robot that caught on fire"-Homer J. Simpson
Hey, don't be too hard on Dwight.
He managed to hit the backboard.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
8-0 run... Dwight takes his first jumper of the year
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
I would hope D12 gets at least 25/15 tonight
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions
What is even the rest of the Bucks' frontcourt?
I mean, they’ve got Gadzuric playing 15 MPG, Kurt Thomas playing 16, and… what? I mean, I guess they had Bogut for part of the year, but what are they doing now?
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Mbah a Moute?
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
He's a small forward.
An athletic SF, and a good defender, but he makes Thomas look like a true center.
…looks like we may be seeing what they’re doing for third-string centers pretty soon.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Mbah a Moute is hurt right now
Mostly Ilyasova and Hakim Warrick play the 3 for the Bucks.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Magic shooting bad early
…just 1 of 5.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions
You're sensing it... I'm watching it.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Yep... 0 for 2 FGs and 2 TOs
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
An ugly airball at that
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
lol 0-2 with an airball and 2 turnovers
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
He misses another FT. I can't figure out his FT shooting woes to start the season.
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
Wow, smart play from Redick.
It’s about time SOMEONE made a smart move. Wasn’t expecting it to be him.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Lewis has both Magic FGs
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions
Lewis has looked pretty good.
Maybe get some more shots for him?
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Beautiful spin move by Dwight
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
If you're surprised by Ilyasova playing well
You shouldn’t be. Sorry.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Nice couple plays from Dwight
Spin move and a hook shot.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
God, I'm sick of flopping.
"We got more gongs than the break dancing robot that caught on fire"-Homer J. Simpson
Ilyasova is playing the best by FAR for either team early in the game.
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
8 pts, 5 rebounds
"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"
by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
Ilyasova is young, though.
He’s 22. And he’s been a real player for them so far — 11 points, 7 rebounds in 22 minutes. FG% hasn’t been great, but he might actually be a guy for them.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Ilyasova can really play
The last 2 years he played at Barcelona really helped him develop as a player before coming back to Milwaukee.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
You know, the Bucks have been making a LOT of goofy outside shots.
Raises the question of what happens when those stop falling.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
I would be nice to see him dunk that though. He's got the lowest hops of any 6'10" black man I've ever seen! lol
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
Well, when he doesn't get called for a charge.
But yeah — he’s done that twice and made a three. Nice to see him back in the game on offense.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Magic have made 6 shots in a row
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:30 PM EST reply actions
Are you able to get FS Wisconsin where you're at Mike?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
No pookey
I’m watching ND/Stanford as I’m following the Magic on Yahoo! Sports.
"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"
by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Meh
Go Magic! LOL
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I've been able to see a lot of Magic games here so far
…with the free first week of NBA League Pass and the Magic games on ESPN and TNT.
"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"
by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
The Magic were going to be on Nat TV a lot. That’s always good if you don’t have broadband.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Plus I get to see them when they play the Bulls...
..and when I take my Orlando vacation in February/March.
I hope to go to several games at Amway when I’m down there.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
That sounds awesome actually
Especially considering the weather in Chicago in Feb/March.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Got hit in his face
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Did you see Paul Pierce knee Bosh right in the jewels last night? Ouch.
"We got more gongs than the break dancing robot that caught on fire"-Homer J. Simpson
Yeah that was pretty ugly
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
The worst part is that Pierce stood over him taunting him while he was groping in pain. What an ass!
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
He cut the inside of his lip (didn't see how it happened) and went to locker room.
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
Until they just showed the replay of how it happened. lol
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
Apparently he got popped in the chops by Charlie Bell . . .
with an errant elbow.
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
Bucks are shooting just 7 of 20
Magic are at 7 of 13.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions
You need to change your sig now that you have a new av! ;)
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LOL,
Yeah, I guess I do! Unfortunately, “What’s Up Ryan?” is already taken.
Any suggestions?
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
Yeah, and a lot of the shots the Bucks have made haven't exactly been easy shots.
We’ve been solid on D.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Has there been a game where someone hasn't stepped out of bounds?
"We got more gongs than the break dancing robot that caught on fire"-Homer J. Simpson
Hey, it was Ryan. That's new.
Speaking of things Pietrus does, though — Pietrus really hasn’t driven the lane much this year, has he? Maybe he’s avoiding it because of the injuries? Guy used to be crazy about driving into the lane.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
I don't know. It makes as much sense as anything else I can think of.
"We got more gongs than the break dancing robot that caught on fire"-Homer J. Simpson
Does being a Magic fan automatically make you apocalyptic?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I can just tell the team is lacking some focus and energy early on.
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
Nope.
What does Third Quarter Collapse mean? :P
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Get this... Bucks are shooting just 9 of 23...
…but are 5 of 6 on threes.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, Bucks have been lucky on threes.
Or good… but I seem to recall a at least couple of those threes being pretty well-defended.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Magic are 8 of 17, but just 1 of 6 on threes
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:39 PM EST reply actions
D12 with 4 pts, 6 boards in the first quarter
…gotta start feeding him more.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions
Why? So he can turn it over again?
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
You saw what he did against the Hawks Thursday night
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah 2 TO's by Dwight doesn't mean you stop feeding him the ball
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Thank you
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
The Magic are superbly lethargic
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Polish Hammer!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Warrick has 12 pts off the Bucks' bench
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions
You know...I said I wasn't gonna watch a Magic game for a while after that Miami game...
but I let my guard down after they beat Atlanta. I’m regretting that decision.
It's early yet
Still plenty of time for the Magic to get their act together.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
VC has played only 5 minutes so far
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions
And as you say that, he returns to the game after getting stitches in his mouth!
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
huh... hope it wasn't too serious
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
I KNEW it was a bad omen when they couldn't hit a shot early on . . .
And STILL maintained the lead after 1.
The Magic seem determined to underperform vs the weaker teams . . . sigh :(
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
They don't play till Sunday
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Warrick is dominating Dwight Howard
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
Actually, most of his points were against Gortat, not Howard.
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
Warrick dominated Gortat, and is currently dominating Howard
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
He's scored 2 points since Howard re-entered the game. How can you consider that "dominating Howard?"
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
We were worried about Jennings going off, but it's Warrick who's gone off
… with 14 pts on 5 of 7 shooting.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 9:53 PM EST reply actions
Every single time they post up Carter, something good happens
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
Yep me too
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I think he used to play for the Hornets once upon a time
Not sure tho.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Good foul by Shard
Saved a sure basket.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Thank you Dwight
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
Maybe the Magic will wake up.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Hopefully it won't be after they are down 20+...
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If they think they can turn it on
They’ve got another thing coming. But, one loss more or less doesn’t signal there is a problem.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I might remind
That while the Bulls won 72 games during the 95-96 season, they still lost 10 times that season. It’s possible to lose any given game. These are still NBA teams playing.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
If that's true
And the Magic could win a championship, they should never lose.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I didn't say that. You like putting words in my mouth. I'm saying the Magic are the better team in tonight's game and should win, especially with Redd and Bogut out.
I never once said they should go undefeated for the season.
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You're missing my point
Nevermind.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I understand exactly what you are saying, and I just said this is a game we should win. I don't see where this is that complicated.
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You're missing my point
Nevermind.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
No, I am not. I understand that any team can win on any given night (except maybe the Nets), but I still say the Magic should win tonight.
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You're still missing my point
Nevermind.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Then you aren't doing a very good job of explaining it then!
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Well I'm trying to give up but you're trying to badger it out of me
But I feel you won’t get it and as such I should give up. One last chance.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Badger it out of you? Don't worry about it then.
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The refs love getting these goaltending calls wrong against the Magic, don't they?
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AWESOME plays by Dwight!!!
TO LEADS TO A 3 AND AN OFF INTERFERENCE!
EPIC FAIL . . .
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
It wasn't offensive interference though...
They clearly got that call wrong.
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35 pts for the Bucks' bench
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions
You'd be better off not watching this massacre
by MightyMouth on Nov 28, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Massacre? They played most of the first half without Vince and now they're only down 9.
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
When I first said this, they were down by 17...
I stand corrected. They are only down by 9 now
by MightyMouth on Nov 28, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Bucks continue to shoot light-out on threes
…7 for 8.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions
Bass glad to be on the court again and wants to make sure he gets back.
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THe magic are inconsistent at best
by i2ambler on Nov 28, 2009 10:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Jennings has been struggling the past couple of games.
I guess teams are finally realizing he’s not just some dumb rookie.
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Dwight PLOWS thru his defender and THEN gets the call?
These refs are a JOKE!
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
Very nice call for Dwight there
Lucky indeed. It pays to be a superstar in the NBA.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Well, considering how many times he's gotten the short end on calls, I'll take that one...
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It pays to be owed a make up call lol.
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
That was a godawful half. Some good things towards the end though.
"We got more gongs than the break dancing robot that caught on fire"-Homer J. Simpson
What a SAD, SAD 1st half . . .
HOPEFULLY the Magic will get their SH!TE together af\for the 2nd half, ala Atlanta.
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
I give the Bucks credit for playing very well in the first half
…they shot 7 of 8 on threes and have an outstanding 14/3 AST/TO ratio.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions
Putiing in Bass turned the game around. Bass will drive and play inside more offensively and with MIL’s frontcourt that what’s needed. Unfortunately, Dwight should need to be able to do that by himself.. Atleast, MIL has been shooting abnormally well and Bass looks very active defensively making the Dwight-Bass combo looking good right now.
by derekk on Nov 28, 2009 10:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Brandon is getting burn because of the matchups.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he saw some minutes at C.
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thats funny everyones down on bass for his d.
stan (about time) puts him in and we slow them down. the man just needs some minutes. every one has bad games stimes many in a row look at shard right now.
Magic are shooting 49% but...
…are just 4 of 14 on threes and have 10 turnovers.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:10 PM EST reply actions
ya turnovers are killing us.
carter leaving hurt a little too.
by magicman775 on Nov 28, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that's an achilles' heel for the Magic (defending the PNR).
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Magic are fortunate to be down single-digits to the Bucks.
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+1
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Yeah, hopefully the Magic make the necessary adjustments and play better in the second half
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
Down 9.
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Negative. Down 9.
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I'm looking at Yahoo GameChannel and it says 56-45. It must not be updating.
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It's missing a basket for Orlando.
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Look at the regular box score from Yahoo
It has the correct score.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'm looking at that and it also says 56-45. Weird.
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Mike's right malars
Yahoo has it totaled correcxtly in the box score, but wrong up top in the scoring part.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Ah, ok. Well, I wonder which basket they missed. Curious...
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Don't matter
It’ll get fixed at some point.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
It isn't missing the basket. The box score is correct.
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56-47
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
ON Yahoo it says the Magic are down 56-45
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
56-47=9
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
It's wrong.
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Shocking.
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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Yeah Yahoo's box score has the Magic with 47 points
But they don’t have it updated on the score portion yet. Eventually they will.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Howrad with 10, Lewis with 10 lead the Magic
Warrick with 14, Ridnour with 11 lead the Bucks.
Bucks’ bench are outscoring the Bucks’ starters 35-21.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions
Howard with four turnovers and four field goals
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Threes (from Milwaukee) and turnovers are killing Orlando.
Both fixable issues.
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Yeah it's called a hand in the face. :)
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by Diosnomeama on Nov 28, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
I'm skeptical it'll last the entire game.
Milwaukee is exerting a lot of energy on a back-to-back.
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They did get blown out last night at OKC though
That doesn’t take that much energy does it?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
No, but they did still play.
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I think it's more a mental issue than it is a physical one
These guys are all brilliant athletes in their own right (for the most part). If anything, I think the fact that the Magic are a championship contender just gives them confidence to let it all out & just fly. Maybe I’m wrong though.
When I was younger I thought b2b’s were totally major deals (and they are). But, as I’ve gotten older, I’ve recognized that b2b’s mean less when a team is out for blood or on a roll or something.
Sometimes being home is all the energy rejuvenation you need.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
All good points. Equally valid.
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It's like the argument (sort of) I was having w/ Malars
You can say the Magic shouldn’t lose this game, but if the Magic are better than every other team in the NBA, they shouldn’t lose a game.
Every championship contender, every year, will lose 3 or 4 games that they shouldn’t. In the end, it probably doesn’t even matter and nobody will ever remember it much long term.
Anyway, yeah.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I can't believe their bench will play as well as they did in the first half
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't put it past them.
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The Bucks have real talent
I’m surprised so many people have slept on them.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Cavs pound the Mavs tonight
111-95.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions
After losing to Charlotte last night
They were in need of something.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
pookey, do you ever see Marie on Mavs moneyball?
She doesn’t come on 3QC any more.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
I don't go there much
So, no. Last time I was at Mavs Moneyball, I didn’t see much being said by her though.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Oh ok
I miss her on 3QC.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
I wish she was around. Next time I see her, I’ll tell her you said hello.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Yeah, I haven't heard from her in several months
We used to e-mail each other every now and then. She told me she wouldn’t be coming on 3QC any more.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Wonder why
I’m sure she has her reason’s. Sometimes changes in a community doesn’t suit everyone.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I understood why she left
I don’t blame her for leaving 3QC.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Bleh
That doesn’t sound good. Oh well.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Yep...
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Now I hope the Lakers lose tonight somehow. Not likely, but still.
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by Diosnomeama on Nov 28, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Pietrus better get his act together because he's sucking in this game.
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Oh yes he is.
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Right... 0 for 4 shooting with 2 TOs
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't be surprised if Mickael doesn't wake up, that Redick and Carter see more minutes together.
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That's their best lineup anyway.
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Another wide-open three by the Bucks to start the 2nd half. sigh
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Alright, I need to head out. Take care everyone!
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Nice hearing from you E
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Take it easy e
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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Just got in, saw the boxscore
What in the hell? I know the Bucks are good now, but this good?
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Barnes isn't playing that much better
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Fifth TO for Dwight.
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These local Bucks announcers are turrible
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Kristin Kreuk is the love
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My stupid feed got blocked right after halftime. Cabrones!
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Dwight with 5 TOs now . . .
He’s WELL on his way to the dubious triple double!
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
WTF@ the horns and college level chanting at that Miluakee arena
Whut is going on here?
Nice hook shot by Dwight btw
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Jennings is tough
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Kristin Kreuk is the love
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Peaches fouled twice before being blocked, no call.
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Where was this Carlos Delfino in Detroit?
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Peaches gets HAMMERED by the most embarassing block I've seen in a while!
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Damn...
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They finally miss a three and we can't get the rebound.
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Why does it sound like a Soccer game over at that arena
Nice response 3 by J-Will
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Magic are playing lethargic on D
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Just on D?
They lethargic on both ends my man.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Damn Bucks are just more energized than Orlando
No excuse missing those rebounds and defensive rotation
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Ilyasova is just punishing Rashard Lewis
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Ilyasova is really talented
Not so talented that he should punish Shard, but you really shouldn’t be surprised by Ilyasova’s play. He’s a really talented player. He’s put it all together since he’s played in Spain.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I didn't know he was better than Rashard
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't say he was
Read what I wrote again please.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Bucks are thoroughly dominating the Magic on the boards
…32-26, and they have 10 offensive boards to the Magic’s 3.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:37 PM EST reply actions
6th TO for Howard,
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even with out meer we should be stomping these guys.
i agree blue blood PATHETIC
Hopefully D12 finishes with more FGs than TOs
He’s 7 of 10 shooting, along with the 6 TOs.
"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"
by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions
These offensive boards we're giving up are painful to watch.
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
Come on D up Orlando
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
Dwight with his second jumpshot... both bad misses
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
I'll be glad to faciliate a Spencer Hawes/Jason Thompson trade for Dwight Howard if the Magic agree
What do you think?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I just want him to take care of the ball and stick to his post game
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Dwight will not have 40 & 20
It’s only one game.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
And what I mean by 40 & 20 is that he won't dominate every night even when he should
Everybody has poor games when they probably should not. Nature of the beast in Dwight’s case.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Miluakee is getting TOO MANY good looks and open lanes
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
Because everyone complains about him having no offensive moves 3-feet away from the basket
So he’s gonna keep trying till he gets it right
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
by Wasabi Steak on Nov 28, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
Down to 6. Keep it up guys!
"We got more gongs than the break dancing robot that caught on fire"-Homer J. Simpson
Make that down to 3!
"We got more gongs than the break dancing robot that caught on fire"-Homer J. Simpson
197-196
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Yeah, Dwight has 107 points.
"We got more gongs than the break dancing robot that caught on fire"-Homer J. Simpson
by Diosnomeama on Nov 28, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
And Rashard still has 6
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
12^
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I was gonna say that was bad shot by J-Will
….but it went in
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
J-Will!
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
Magic outshooting the Bucks 51% to 41%
…and are right back in the game down 72-69.
"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"
by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions
72-61 now
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
72-71 I mean
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
It's actually 73-72 Orl up
Sorry.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
You are forgiven considering how much the home team scoreboard operators mucked that up! lol
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
Thank You
I was going to take that concern with me to the grave, but now I don’t have to!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Hate those ticky tacky fouls..
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
All in all there are worse ways to end a qtr
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Good run to get back into the game
Lets keep it up for 12 more mins
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
Much better Defense by the Magic in the third
…after allowing 56 first half MIL points, they hold the Bucks to 16 in the third quarter.
Magic outscore Bucks 26-16 in the third.
"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"
by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:46 PM EST reply actions
Bucks just don't have enough offensive threats to make a team like the Magic sweat consistently
If they’re outside jumpers don’t go down, they just don’t have enough offensively to really scare teams.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
If VC plays like this everytime he gets hit in the mouth . . .
We should hire someone to pop him one before each game!
He’s FINALLY looking like vintage VC tonight!!!
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
His shots are just falling tonight, not much of a difference
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree . . .
VC is NOT chucking up quick shots, is driving to the hole and playing VERY aggro!
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
Four Magic players in double figures
…all the starters except MP.
"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"
by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:47 PM EST reply actions
It sure got quiet in there.
"We got more gongs than the break dancing robot that caught on fire"-Homer J. Simpson
Seriously, what is up with this Soccer like crowd in Miluakee???
Ive never seen this at an NBA arena..
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
Its Bizzarree!!!
Also kinda awesome….but bizarre!
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
by Wasabi Steak on Nov 28, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Ole Ole Ole!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Brandon Jennings phenomenon.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Orlando goes on a 15-2 run in the final 4:20
That’s how you overcome your crappy game.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
The Bucks have cooled off on threes also
They’re only 2 of 6 this half compared to 7 of 8 in the first half.
"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"
by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Makes a huge difference
No question.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
The Magic… Where regularly coming back from 20 down and winning happens lol
by derekk on Nov 28, 2009 10:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The immortal JJ Redick is Hulking up!
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
I kinda like the new "drive to the hole" JJ!
But I HATE his new SUCKY @SS FTshooting!
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
yea how do you forget how to shoot
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Really Wisconsin? JJ? Really?
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
Leave JJ alone!
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
They must have attended the Divac school of "defense"
"We got more gongs than the break dancing robot that caught on fire"-Homer J. Simpson
by Diosnomeama on Nov 28, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
He has trouble catching the ball
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Come on Magic D up there
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
God dammitt Brandon Bass!
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
Sigh...Watch the Magic try to 3 point shoot there way out of this small deficit
:(
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
GOOD EFFORT VC!
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
Oh man even if they arent making them, I dont like leaving these guys open like this
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
C'mon Luke Ridnor you aint 90's Penny Hardaway with the spin in traffic
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
3rd quarter WIN!
Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
Keep Sleeping on Orlando...
Wow, how was there no foul on the drive by Vince, yet a foul on nothing with Bass' put back?
NBA officating…it’s FAN-TASTIC! /facepalm
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
I'll take it
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
by Wasabi Steak on Nov 28, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
YESH! And tha FOUL!
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
How many make up calls have we seen tonight? Jesus
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
Too many
But big men are generally harder to ref than perimeter players.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
The Lebron shot again...every frakkin' Magic game, they show that damn commercial!
sigh
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
Bucks Live is Emmy Award Winning?
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
What's wrong with the Bucks announcers?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Also Wasabi
Maloof Sports & Entertainment (the Kings) have claimed to be a 7 time Emmy Award for broadcasting Kings games or some such. It’s not terribly uncommon.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Everything
I still remember that horrid campaign ads from 2007/2008 with the Dennis Leary MTV shorts parody which was painfully dated by 15 years
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
by Wasabi Steak on Nov 28, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
Oh
Well, I like Jim Paschke and Jon McGlocklin actually. They are not nearly as bad as many tandem’s around the league. (Like Eric Reid and Tony Fiorentino for instance. God awful if I may say so.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Poor FT shooting again by the Magic
…just 9 of 16. Redick is 1 for 4. He needs to watch his shooting video again or something.
"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"
by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 10:59 PM EST reply actions
Unlucky Bassy
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
"Almost impossible to stop that"- Really Buck annnouncer
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
D12 3 of 5 on FTs
"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"
by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 11:01 PM EST reply actions
He was due, I was getting worried for him this season
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
by Wasabi Steak on Nov 28, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
21/14 for D12
…he’s making up for the 6 TOs.
"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"
by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions
Magic now shooting 53%
…the Bucks just 39 1/2%.
"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"
by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 11:03 PM EST reply actions
That was uncanny three point shooting by the Bucks
Thank goodness the law of averages caught up with them.
"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"
by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Keep bricking Bucks
I was gonna kill a couple ninjas but they did to themselves-Hov
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
Well
Whose going to complain now?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I will if everyone else is all tapped out.
"We got more gongs than the break dancing robot that caught on fire"-Homer J. Simpson
by Diosnomeama on Nov 28, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
LOL Go for it
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Ok, Dwight's teeth are too white. And SVG's mustache is unkempt.
"We got more gongs than the break dancing robot that caught on fire"-Homer J. Simpson
by Diosnomeama on Nov 28, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Magic fans
< / talk to the hand >
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I know it
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
So happy Pietrus and Barnes are sitting
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
VC is the player of the game tonight, IMO . . .
EVEN with D12’s monster game!
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
Redick... 9 pts on 3 of 5 shooting, 2 of 5 FTs
"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"
by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions
Carter's having a rough night with the officiating.
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
VC... 22 pts, 6 boards, 2 assists
"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"
by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 11:07 PM EST reply actions
Bad first half, great second half
…just like the Hawks’ game.
"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"
by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Well, we weren't doing so good, down as much as 15 or so, and have rallied back to be up as much as 10.
Currently, it’s 92-87, good guys.
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
Magic are losing by 250 peso's
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
WHAT DID I SAY ABOUT USING APOSTROPHES IN PLURAL NOUNS??
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Nov 28, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
I've told him the same thing a thousand time's. :))
What’s up Squid?
"We got more gongs than the break dancing robot that caught on fire"-Homer J. Simpson
by Diosnomeama on Nov 28, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Do it as often as possible?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Concentrate, D up now
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
Vince gets wacked on every other play
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
Who the hell is this guy?
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
C'mon Vince is getting mugged!
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
They need to get Lewis involved.
His shot has been there tonight, and still only 7 FG attempts.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
I think I speak for everyone when I say...
Howard needs to hit his free throws.
Oh come on you gotta stay on Jennings that was tough
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
So they're gonna intentionally foul Dwight the rest of the way?
FAIL!
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
Well with 2:50 on the clock and only a 3 pt lead that's still a LONG TIME!
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
When we have the lead, I'll take that.
Ultimately, we’re going to get more average points on Dwight at the line than we are running plays. Just BARELY more… but still. In the long run, they can’t keep up.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
C'mon Dwight
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
WHAT KINDA BS IS THAT??????
I HATE THESE BUMP FOULS COME ON!!!
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
Especially considering how much contact Vince has taken without getting a whistle.
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
GET IT VINCE!
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
I hope this isn't a repeat of the Miami game...
We get a 10 point lead in the 4th quarter and then let the other team come back.
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad Stttttttuuuuuuuuuuuuuupid shot vince
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
Milk the shot clock, get an inside shot, come on guys. Dont fall in love with the treay with seven seconds or less
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
Pietrus in for Redick
"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"
by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 11:14 PM EST reply actions
That's going from bad to worse. Pietrus has been abominable.
by MightyMouth on Nov 28, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
I'll take his D on Jennings than JJ
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
by Wasabi Steak on Nov 28, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Where the heck did this crowd come from??
lol
"Don't wait to say Im gone to say I was the best"-NaS
Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
Milwaukee area presumably
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by pookeyguru on Nov 28, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No that's Tallahassee I thought
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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
right now hell is my sister's house and her stupid freaking dog
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Nov 28, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Dog's aren't hell
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
he's FROM hell, you pedantic arse
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Nov 28, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
What's a pedantic arse?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Thanks for the tip
I’ll use it next time.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
you should, it's pretty awesome
just came out, I hear
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Nov 28, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Ah
Thanks, again!
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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Since they sound like soccer fans . . .
Maybe they’re Jennings fans d]from Italy!
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Really, you're gonna leave Brandon Jennings open. Really you're gonna put JJ on him? Really?
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Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
JWill's clutch-factor is negative infinity the last few games.
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Guys serious WTF, u dont need Chauncey freakking Billups on the floor to know..
Hold the ball, move it around, milk the shot clock and get the open shot
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Shard's having a rough game, especially on defense!
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He's shooting 5-8.
Say what you want about his D, but they have not been getting him the ball, and he really should have the ball.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Better not
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by Wasabi Steak on Nov 28, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
yeah we totally are
I knew we were going to lose the Miami game.
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Nov 28, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Look at you debbie downer lol
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by Wasabi Steak on Nov 28, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
we gave up such a lead in the 4th
then let Wade get to the FT line, of course we’re not winning against that
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by TheGiantSquid on Nov 28, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, unless J-Will makes a free throw.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
It's quite possible. Tie game with 1:06 left, Magic ball. Timeout.
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Are you kidding me???
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Kristin Kreuk is the love
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lol, man F your free throw shooting
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Puta madre! My feed keeps picking these wonderful times to get blocked.
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No. NEVER.
VC is a chucker in the late game. Get a smart shot.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Ha!
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
JJ is in....so he's gonna be Ding up?
sigh…
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Good screen, good ball movement, good rebounds and good shot
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Defense!!!! Defense!!!
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Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
Vince fouled twice on that play, by Bell at the top of the key and by Gadzuric on the elbow on the second to last drive.
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Yep, that's the ratio.
Fouled twice, chuck once.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
How do the Bucks not foul there?
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Ha ha rookies
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Kristin Kreuk is the love
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Damn, I think my heart stopped a few times just now.
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Yeah, I was impressed by the Bucks.
Jennings was a little shaky tonight, but obviously has so much talent. Ilyasova… where did this guy come from? And they were minus their starting center and a SG who scored 20 a game last year. Those four are a pretty solid foundation if they’re all healthy.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Stats.
Mmmmm.
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25/20 for D12 tonight!
The Magic hold on!
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 11:24 PM EST reply actions
At least people who bet Milwaukee to lose by less than 6 points won some money
So i guess everybody’s happy.
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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Of course
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Kristin Kreuk is the love
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
by Wasabi Steak on Nov 28, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
As we were destined to
and how it was laid out by manifest destiny.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
And the Magna Carta.
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by Diosnomeama on Nov 28, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
I knew we had it, Miluakee is a great team but they made some rookie mistakes down the strech
Still a raw team as you saw in the last minute
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If VC can play like tonight fr the rest of the year . . .
We CAN – GO – ALL – THE – WAAAAAAAAAAYYY!!!
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He's getting good looks like this every night... he's just not getting calls and not converting layups
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Was this game Rashard Lewis' official return?
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Thought his second game back was
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by Wasabi Steak on Nov 28, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
though I believe his shooting was poor that game, wasn't it?
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yeah, this was his first game at 50% or higher
And maybe just his second over 33%?
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He had a good offensive outing considering he didn't get up too many shots, but he was awful on defense.
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How so?
Ilyasova scored 20 in 40 minutes on 8-18 shooting. He’s averaging a point every other minute — 11 in 22. Sure, he had a good game tonight, but I think it’s possible Lewis just had an average game against an emerging and massively underrated player who had a good game.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
He was getting abused on the pick-n-roll all night and out of position several times, including that last foul on Ilyasova that could have given them the lead.
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And that 3 Ilyosova missed in their last possession. He was WIDE OPEN, just had no more legs.
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I have to agree.
Ilyasova deserves credit because he hit his shots but Lewis didn’t play the type of defense he’s capable of playing. That’s not an indictment on Ersan, who I really enjoy watching him play.
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Yeah, he hustles.
Ilyasova is a rare breed in that he’s a stretch four but rebounds the ball well.
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It can't be stated enough
Ilyasova’s 2 years at Barcelona REALLLLLLLLLLLY helped him.
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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Yup.
He wasn’t ready a few years ago.
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lol
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Good night yall
And don’t worry be happy. :)
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nothing wrong with that! :)
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I like the celebration by the Magic afterwards...especially Howard.
…He has been more passionate and intense the last few games…good to see from him.
Thanks for coming out, god bless and good night
And usual, the party is at Lil Pennys
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Jason Williams - 10 assists, ZERO turnovers.
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Big game
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by Wasabi Steak on Nov 28, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
he was outstanding again
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
I can really get used to those numbers
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Eddy you were right about J.J. and Vince, as soon as they were played together the Magic came all the way back
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Pietrus was a black hole tonight, unfortunately.
Redick was a much more effective player tonight, especially on the defensive side of the ball.
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A little bit, but Redick was all over him at times.
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Thank goodness the Magic were able to overcome bad FT shooting
…they were 14 of 25, the Bucks 13 of 17.
Magic shot 51%, the Bucks 41%.
Everyone enjoy the rest of your Saturday night/Sunday morning.
Nice win over a game Bucks team.
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 28, 2009 11:28 PM EST reply actions
That's how it works sometimes.
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Peaches ended the night scoreless, with an airball, a shot blocked by CARLOS DEL-F'n-FINO, and 2 turnovers!
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Terrible. He'll be okay, just a bad game.
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when you consider his PER of 9.3 on the season (before tonight,) I think it's a sign of a greater problem.
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
PER is an offensively biased statistic, though.
When Pietrus’ mind is right, he’s the Magic’s best perimeter defender.
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Pietrus is wildly inconsistent...but he is our best perimeter defender...
so he needs to be starting.
by MightyMouth on Nov 28, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
It's not like he's normally efficient, but today's performance was horrible
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
He's seen better days.
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Live by the Peaches . . .
Die by the Peaches!!!
Still love him tho . . .
no homo :)
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Isn't J-Will on a 1 year deal?
If so, MAGIC NEED TO RESIGN HIM STAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yeah, the veteran's minimum.
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For the Vet's minimum he was the STEAL of the off season!!!
Magic better secure him for another 2 years ASAP!!!
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I don't know about two years, he IS 34.
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True but he's 10x's better than AJ, our other alternative . . .
There’s probably a few teams that would scoop him up in a minute too!
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The Magic need a young point guard, though.
It’s fine to rely on a wily veteran but there needs to be youth at the position.
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Off-season, at the earliest.
I doubt the Warriors move him during the season.
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I think he'll be a restricted free agent again next offseason.
I’d imagine the only way we’re getting him is through a trade, no?
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Or we could get Andris Biedrins and play him at PG.
Same difference.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
How about Gortat and Pietrus and two 2010 draft picks for Ariza
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You'd trade Pietrus straight up for a draft pick!
And I think I might too to be honest. . .
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People are too harsh around here, sometimes. No patience.
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A bad game doesn't bother me
It’s just when it seems to be an ongoing trend. . . though Pietrus has shown flashes of brilliance, I have to question if he belongs here sometimes
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Mickael definitely belongs, just needs to focus better.
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Well, I do think he belongs
but I have always preferred him as a sixth man
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He does loss concentration
He’s got that “Ya’ mahn” island vibe. Don’t think he can help it.
by magicfaninTN on Nov 29, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
Only a lottery pick lol..
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
No way.
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Anybody concerned with JJ's shooting woes from the stripe the past few games?
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JJ? he'll be fine
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He hurt his hand tonight. Nothing wrong with him.
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Looking at his season numbers (39%FG, 52%FT) and shaky defense (so far...) I kind of hope something's wrong/
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
His all-around game has improved so much
I think he’s been working on other things, and just needs to spend time at the stripe once again
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lol wrong location for that comment
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
didn't think that was his ft% :)
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No - he'll be fine
What I am glad to see though is that he is making important jump shots – not just in garbage time like before!!
Alright, I need to head out for the evening. Good win, take it easy everyone.
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HOLY CRAP Matty just gave us a SHOUT OUT!!!
HOLLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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Matty just name-dropped TQC again in the post-game.
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I saw it this time.
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Well, now you HAVE to post something about his question! lol
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LOL, yup.
I’ll get to it sometime.
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Only because
We’re the best! :)
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I was about to post something about it but i guess there are already about 5 of them hahaha but he was correct it was a solid game from brandon. I suppose that ryan was taken out because he wasn't defending particularly well and stan...
just wanted to give it another look to see how that lineup would do
Look at Ryan's +/-
Don’t know how much was him, but that’s a pretty bad number
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Eh, raw +/- can be deceiving.
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yes it can. . . I haven't checked play by play to see who did that scoring
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He got caught in that early second quarter thing.
It wasn’t really anyone’s fault… I’m not sure our defense even broke down. The Bucks just started making a bunch of shots — threes in particular. But I seem to recall Warrick being heavily involved in that, and Ridnour?
Anyway, it looks like Bass played well in the minutes he had.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
and Warrick was Anderson's man, right?
I am glad that Hakim played well, considering that we still won. . . my priority list: Magic first, Magic players 2nd, former Syracuse players third :)
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I want to say Ilyasova was Anderson’s man, and Warrick was the SF. But that might have been one of the (few) breaks Ilyasova got.
I don’t know… that whole small-ball thing was massively confusing.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Hakim saw minutes at C, not SF.
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Glad to see all of us watching the post game lol
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I wish I had that station up in NY!
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Good to see B. Bass get some playing time and produce tonight!
Funny thing is, I was in the middle of posting that comment when the Matty made his comments about 3QC discussing just that!!
HILARIOUS!!! And a little scary too!!!! :)
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Get ready to kick me off this site!
but the way J-Will has played, I want him to keep starting after Jameer comes back. He’s taking care of the ball so well, his passing is outstanding, he has been playing better d that Jameer, he scores when we need him to, and Jameer can be that extra firepower our second unit needs.
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Keep dreaming, unfortunately.
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Does unfortunately mean you'd favor this move?
Veeeeeery interesting!
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Williams is to Stockton as Nelson is to Iverson
That doesn’t mean I’m against Nelson. . . just I think Williams play is the perfect fit for this first unit
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Nelson shot 50% from the field last year.
Williams shot 38.4% in 2007-08. And while Nelson had a few bad defensive games, he’s historically a very good defender, while Williams has never been a good defender.
I wouldn’t let ten games either way change what two entire careers have told us about these two men.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Then again
Everyone has known J-Will to be an elite passer his whole career, at least possessing the ability. . . hence the Stockton reference. Jameer Is more of a score first point guard, hence the Iverson
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I don't think of him as an elite passer, no.
You might be able to make the argument in his early career, though I would describe young J-Will as more of a flashy passer, a guy who got extra assists at the expense of turnovers.
But late-career J-Will was a steady guy, the kind of guy who averages 5 assists and 2 turnovers a game. (Granted, he played alongside Wade a lot of that time, so he wasn’t always handling the ball as much as you would expect from a PG.)
My point is, Jameer is definitely more of a shooter, but (like Stockton) he’s also a great decision-maker. He doesn’t necessarily rack up the assists like a guy like Stockton would, but he’s great at finding the open man and getting the easy shot for the team. J-Will’s decision-making these days is definitely better than it was with Sacramento, but it’s never been natural for him.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Well I would go as far as to say that they haven't missed a beat
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 28, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
I think they found their rhythm
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Jay Will is a godsend
aj… not so much
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by Souwantmyname on Nov 29, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Only on Thursday
That was AJ’s turn back the clock day
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i think he popped a couple viagra in pregame
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by Souwantmyname on Nov 29, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
Well, if that's all it takes. . .
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I would like to apologize to everybody for my Stan-like negativity
But I would like to make it clear I’m very high on the team overall so far.
My issues so far:
1. Pietrus’ and Barnes’ inefficiency.
2. Dwight’s frequent fouler miles and turnovers (4.4 TO/pg in the last 5)
3. Rashard getting outrebounded by opposing fours on a nightly basis.
That’s pretty much it. Otherwise I’m thrilled with their start.
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except for the fact that Ilyasova had 16 lol including 7 offensive
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 29, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
What's an Ilyasova???
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by Souwantmyname on Nov 29, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Ilyasova: noun
an unknown player who plays amazingly well against the Magic, making Dwight look like an average rebounder, and making the defense look atrocious.
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I was not downplaying Dwight's game
20 rebounds is spectacular. . . 16 is as well
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oh thanks for that definition
you need to wiki that
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by Souwantmyname on Nov 29, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
Ilyasova went into this game averaging 7 rebounds in 22 minutes.
16 in 40 is only a few above that total. The man’s a good rebounder, whether or not anyone knows that yet.
Anyway, he was clearly the primary rebounder for the Bucks — the better comparison would be Ilyasova vs. Howard and Lewis vs. the Bucks’ rotating centers.
(Next question: who do we have who’s a better rebounder? I mean, aside from Gortat.)
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
I'm impressed with Barnes rebounding
though 16 is a bit high for him, I must say. . . otherwise, our centers are probably the only above average rebounders at their positions. . . maybe Carter too at sg
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Yeah, Barnes maybe.
But does anyone want to see Barnes at PF? Didn’t think so.
(Though I would like to see him more at SF, especially if the alternative is Pietrus.)
My point is, Lewis isn’t a great rebounder, but he’s no worse than Anderson or Bass on the defensive boards.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Bass should be better than he has been. . .
I just hope he will have the chance to get to his potential, when he only sees the ball from a distance most days
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Potential? Bass has reached his potential.
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He isn't "better than he has been", though.
Bass has never been a good rebounder.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Correction
Bass is a better rebounder than he has been this year. This year, he has 3 rebounds in 21 minutes a game. He’s better than that. But he’s not better than average, or better than Anderson, or (for that matter) better than Lewis. (On defensive boards. There is reason to believe he’s a better offensive rebounder than Lewis.)
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
You are correct.
I believe that Bass should be a double figure rebounder, but he has not shown that yet in his career.
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Apology accepted man . . .
We’re all suceptible to being pessimistic, we just gotta try and look at the bright side once in a while!
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Also . . .
1. Pietrus is usually a good defendr and we don’t rely on his off to win, same with Barnes.
2. Dwight has been slowly improving of the fouls and the TOs should get better as the team continues to gel.
3. Rashard was never a great rebounder but as long as he can box out his man on D we should be ok.
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Barnes at least has played great defense. He's been superb. Carter and Redick have played better than Pietrus on both ends so far in my opinion.
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 29, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
If Stan wants to keep Rashard at the 4
then I feel that JJ has earned the start instead of Pietrus
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If not JJ, then start Barnes and fine him for every 3 attempted :)
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I like they way you think
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by ben_gleicher on Nov 29, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
You and I alike
Make Stan look like a happy optimist :)
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I still feel like the team is a work in progress.
We still haven’t seen them play at 100% of their potential.
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by North of the South on Nov 29, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
I think we have, but never for a full game
Full potential for a full game means some big time blowouts
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THIS.
Not even CLOSE to 100% yet. We’ve only had our starting line up for ONE game and we still have the best record in the East . . .
I’ll Take It!
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This team is expected to be streaky
based on three point centered offense. The thing that bothers me is that the team is so streaky on defense. This has to change, only because there is no reason for it other than laziness. If and when this changes, we will be the team to beat, period.
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I'll just say..
there are alot of other guards in this league that can put up #’s like Jameer playing alongside 3 shooters and Dwight
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by Souwantmyname on Nov 29, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
I do not like the Jameer
who has played this year. I vote to reinstate the 08-09 model.
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i also remember the bagillion games he doesnt play because he is ALWAYS hurt
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by Souwantmyname on Nov 29, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
He scored a lot of points that game, yes. . .
while mostly playing with the second unit due to injuries and Rashard’s suspension. The second unit needs a scorer like that. The first unit needs a passer like J-Will. I’m not saying Jameer is bad. I am just saying that some players go together better than others
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Last year's team was different
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Then again, last year's Nelson was too. . .
If he can return fully, and play good d without turning the ball over so much, no problem. I would still rather see J-Will starting, as he just simply is the better passer and ball handler, but I will settle for Jameer if I need to :)
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your not getting the gripe
he is always hurt so he does nothing for us most of the time
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by Souwantmyname on Nov 29, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
Always hurt? No, he's not always hurt. Sometimes hurt? Yes, he's sometimes hurt.
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the negativity on these boards is amazing
because we have quality backup point guards, you crazies think that jameer is not an incredible player, when in fact he is. he was an all-star last year and because he is playing below his level last year (newsflash: everyone on the team’s numbers are down from last year) that we should get rid of him/bring him off the bench/etc. it is absolutely ludicrous to suggest we bench an all-star point guard so that we can see jwill get a few more minutes a game.
ya, fickle people with short memories.
I haven’t been posting during games, cause I’ve been DVR’ing them and watching them about an 1 hour into the game (saves time).
I’ll trust SVG to make the right call about Nelson.
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by AB's triple double on Nov 29, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't say negativity, as it's more overreacting. There's no patience.
Some people don’t keep things in perspective sometimes.
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yeah negativity wasn’t really the word i was looking for but i couldn’t figure out how to put it exactly. people are just taking any shortcomings a player has had (through 10-15 games) or whatever and blown it way out of porportion acting like the person has always been a bad player or they always will be, or because they are having a good couple games we should bench jameer, or bench pietrus, or start other people or play brandon bass more. for heaven’s sake we are 13-4 with the best record in the east, im sure things are going to work out just fine once we get everyone back. jameer will be our starting point guard and jwill will be coming off the bench, and more likely than not brandon bass will continue to get spotty minutes at the 4 spot.
Jameer will start, Jason will be the back-up, Brandon will get spot minutes.
And order will, hopefully, be restored. But I doubt it.
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I've always thought that Nelson would be hugely effective coming off the bench if
we had a good starter – maybe J-Will could be that man!!
Yeah, let's put the 50% shooter on the bench for the 38% shooter.
One question… is the 50% shooter also the better defender by a wide margin? Yes? Perfect!
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
That is an unknown
so far this year, J-Will has been the MUCH better defender. . . You can’t say that Nelson is so much better, when he has yet to prove that. J- Will may not have played better defense in 07-08, but that was with a different team, and when he was hampered by injuries. . . Until we can see otherwise, I would rate them about even on defense.
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Williams has been the better defender this year, yes, but wait until the season plays out.
Even then, I can’t believe (but I’m not surprised) that this is even an argument. When Jameer Nelson returns from his injury, he will be the starter and Jason Williams will be his back-up.
End of story.
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J-Will has never been a good defender.
I’m not even really talking about ‘07-’08. I’m talking about his entire career — Williams has always been a defensive liability. And I haven’t been impressed with his defense this year either, to be honest. I don’t think he’s been that different from Nelson this year. And Nelson was off his game on D for the 10 or so games he played.
Which… well, 10 or so games. Don’t you see how Nelson’s injury coincided pretty much exactly with the return of Lewis? There’s a good chance Nelson would’ve started defending like Nelson if he could’ve played alongside Shard. Maybe not, but maybe so. (Remember, Nelson’s D didn’t look off in the preseason.)
My point is, Nelson has proven that he’s a good defender before this year even started. Williams has proven the opposite; he’s had a career marked by poor D. Those are the assumptions we’re working from, and if you start overturning those assumptions based on 10 games, you’re not evaluating, you’re just fidgeting.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Based on statistics, which are admittedly unreliable
Their career Defensive ratings are identical, at 107 each
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Defensive Rating isn't a good statistic to use.
Defensive adjusted plus/minus, opponent PER, net plus/minus, etc. Those are better.
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very true. . .
too bad I can’t find those kinds of stats
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Anyway, we know Jameer's progress.
We’ve all seen first-hand the strides he’s made as a defender. I choose to put a lot more weight what I saw for half a season last year, and what I saw building up to that in previous seasons, not to mention what I saw in the preseason, than on what happened for 10 games on an injury-plagued team.
And honestly, I don’t know THAT much about mid-to-late-career Williams’ defense. I know it was terrible early in his career… I’m also willing to concede it might have improved with maturity, just as his shot selection and ability to avoid turnovers did. But conversely, I’m sure it’s also declined with age.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Jason was a bad defender with Miami.
But I’ll be the first to note that was during a time when he was having knee troubles. Williams is fresh and healthy right now, so that’s why he’s done better defensively. Plus, it helps to play in Orlando’s defensive scheme and for Stan Van Gundy.
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IMO
we need a starting point guard that does not turn the ball over and distributes well as we have plenty of shooters.
But that's both of them.
Both of them are good distributors and take care of the ball. So you can throw that out. The overwhelming majority of the evidence suggests that Nelson does everything else better. And I’m going to need to see way more than 10 games (without Lewis) before I start questioning that evidence.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Jameer distributes the ball just as well as Jason.
They’re assist percentages are nearly identical. Can Nelson take care of the ball better? Sure. Will he? You bet. That being said, the Magic are an absolutely devastating team when Nelson is on his game. A team can NEVER have enough shooters. Ever. That statement makes no sense.
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Honestly, I just get upset with the turnovers more than anything
Assist to turnover ratio is the reason I prefer Williams starting. For the last three seasons, J-Will has had an assist to turnover ratio of better than 3 to 1. Jameer has never yet reached that level.
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But Jameer isn't especially turnover-prone.
He’s averaged 2.0 turnovers a game in ‘07-’08 and ’08-09. These are entirely acceptable numbers.
As for why Williams’ turnovers were low in Miami, that’s simple: he had the ball less. Remember, he was the no. 2 ball-handler behind Wade.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Which is why I went with assist to turnover ratio, rather than straight turnovers
If you want to go on turnovers per 36 minutes, Jameer has never been below 2.3 in his career, and the last time Jason was at 2 or higher was, or course, in his Memphis days.
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Well, yeah, that's my point.
The secondary ballhandler always has fewer turnovers, because he’s not dribbling the ball around the court. With Miami, Williams pretty much only had the ball to make passes; he wasn’t dribbling it around. Nelson has done both throughout his Magic career. The two roles aren’t comparable.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
The question, then, is whether this year so far is a fluke for J-Will.
There are reasons to think that it is, and reasons to think that it is not. His numbers seem to good to be true, so they will likely worsen somewhat; however, his turnovers per 36 have dropped each of the last 8 seasons, except for a .1 increase on year and identical one other year.
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No worries. I knew this was going to happen, as Jason Williams plays well.
Jameer Nelson is the undisputed starting point guard for the Orlando Magic. Nothing will change that.
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Oh I already knew that, I just got sick of reading all the bologna that people were posting. Same exact thing happened last year with Rafer (only then it was the speculation about this coming season) where he would start and jameer would come off the bench, when simply put we were a much better team with Jameer as our starting pg.
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It's a nice issue to have though
and I still would not mind trying it for a game or two – however I realize that it is unlikely.
It's nice because Jason can be relied on, if necessary.
But it makes no sense to bench a captain/leader/starter in his prime for a 34 year-old point guard.
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You're right - looking at it that way
but it should keep Nelson “on his toes” when he comes back.
I remember people saying Nelson didn't use to perform well when there were doubts about him as a starter.
Granted this was several years ago (when Arroyo and him were disputing the starting PG spot). Once the Magic assured him he was the man, Nelson improved his game dramatically.
Years have passed, and he surely has matured, but… can the fact that the team is playing well with JWill instead of him, make Nelson doubt himself? I hope not.
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by North of the South on Nov 29, 2009 1:25 AM EST reply actions
If I had to be worried about one thing...
…it’d be Carter’s late-game chucking. All the rest of these are “this guy isn’t playing well enough” problems. They go away if the guy plays better. But what we saw tonight at the end of the game, and what we’ve seen SEVERAL nights before, is different. We’ve seen Carter repeatedly taking the ball at the end of the game and either chucking a jumper or blindly charging at the hoop, not even stopping to consider if there might be a better shot out there for another player.
Now, fortunately, this game was saved by a couple timely offensive boards. Other games have been saved when Carter actually chucked the shots in. But as I said, this is a different problem. This is Carter falling for some kind of “clutch” nonsense, thinking a) the way to play at the end of the game is somehow different from the way you play at all other times*, and b) he’s automatically the guy we want taking the last shot. And that’s not going away with improvement… if anything, playing better will make him more resolute in his chucking. He has to be told to keep rotating the ball and stop monopolizing the offense late.
- If we’re lucky. Remember when Carter played most of the Boston game on all-chuck, all-the-time mode? That’s what worries me the most: the idea that the bigger the game, the more likely Carter is to ruin our offensive rotations.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
He has been our only real late game option though
Now that Rashard has started hitting shots again, he can start taking shots at the end
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I don't know what that means.
There’s no such thing as a “late game option” — the nature of basketball doesn’t change based on the numbers on the clock. The guy you want taking shots at the end of the game is exactly the same guy you want taking shots throughout the rest of the game. Which is to say, whoever’s open.
(I guess you could make an exception for Dwight, who’s likely to get fouled if he touches the ball. But still, i want the other 4 guys exactly as involved in the offense as they would normally be.)
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
If the starters are in. . .
Dwight should not have it because of his foul shooting. Rashard, until tonight, has been shooting terribly. Pietrus? No comment. That leaves Carter and Williams, and Williams can score when needed, but he is not a primary option.
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My point is, they shouldn’t care who’s “not a primary option”. If the ball is going to Carter 30% of the time, Lewis 20% of the time, and Williams and Pietrus 10% of the time each, then that’s just about exactly the ratio we should be seeing at the end of the game. We should be running plays for everyone, and finding the open man.
As it stands now, we’re seeing the ball going to Carter 70% of the time, Pietrus grabbing it and chucking 15% of the time, and then maybe someone else taking the shot the other 15%. And as a result, we’re seeing defenses closing in on Carter every trip down the court, Carter holding onto the ball anyway, and Carter taking tough shots. The late-game situation is causing Carter to get away from what the team does best.
And this was happening even when Jameer was in the lineup.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
I'm not sure I want Pietrus taking the last shot
But the remaining three all should, I agree. All are good late-game shooters.
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Well, I don't want Pietrus taking ANY shots. :)
But yeah, that’s my point: the fact that defenses are now zeroing in on Carter because they know he’s going to take the shot late in the game, the end result being that there’s no way Carter’s going to get a high-percentage shot late in the game.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
But how much of that has been Stan?
Has he been wanting the ball in Vince’s hands late? I don’t think it’s Vince just being a ball hog. I think Stan needs to feel comfortable with other guys late, before we see that shift
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It's mostly Stan.
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If the starters are in. . .
Dwight should not have it because of his foul shooting. Rashard, until tonight, has been shooting terribly. Pietrus? No comment. That leaves Carter and Williams, and Williams can score when needed, but he is not a primary option.
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oops, that was supposed to be a reply, sorry
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Man, it's late. . . especially for a guy who normally gets up at 5 AM. . .
Night!
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