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Orlando Magic News for November 23rd: More on the Rashard Lewis Saga; Some Thoughts on the Magic's Win over the Raptors

  • Does Allen Think Lewis Should've Missed Playoffs?
    Bethlehem Shoals of The Baseline questions Ray Allen's rationale for bringing up the timing of Rashard Lewis' suspension, at this point.

    Then comes the more perplexing remarks, either a good-natured jab at an old pal—proof that these mistakes mean nothing—or a bit of bitterness creeping in. Not the "Lewis was juicing" kind, more "if only that suspension had come down sooner." [...]

    You could argue that, if Lewis was competing in the Finals, the NBA probably should've rushed the test and figured out his situation before the end of the season. Allen, taking it a step further, wants the initial test to hold more water.

    The question is, why? Allen acknowledges that Lewis probably did nothing wrong, so it's not like he was unfairly beating Boston in the semis. Or maybe he's just defending Lewis's character, but not the fairness of his chemical activities. Which brings us back to the curious quip: Is Allen bemoaning the fact that Lewis should've been out, mistake or not, and thus showing his competitive stripes? Or is it simply a jokey aside?
  • Behind the Box Score, where the Knicks nearly pulled one
    Kelly Dwyer of Ball Don't Lie recaps the Orlando Magic's victory over the Toronto Raptors in yesterday's matinee game.

    The go-to story involves Vince Carter, who was an absolute prat in forcing his way out of Toronto. Carter deserves more enmity than any other ex-player gets from any other ex-crowd, combined, and that noted go-to story involves him playing well in Toronto. That works, actually; because though Carter shot 9 for 24, there were probably six shots that rimmed in and out or bounced out while he was fouled (and didn't see a call). Not V.C.'s biggest fan, but I can't slough that off.
  • The Citizens Of Toronto Still Hate Vince Carter
    Gerald Narciso of Dime Magazine points out how the city of Toronto still has an intense dislike for Vince Carter.

    Fans in T-Dot sure know how to hold a grudge. Nearly five years after Vince Carter’s shaky departure from Toronto, the fans have still not forgiven him nor are they planning on doing so anytime soon. In his first return as a member of the Magic on Sunday, the fans mercilessly booed Carter every time he touched the ball. While locals are still upset about Carter forcing himself out of town, they probably weren’t too pleased he declined to take part in the Raptors’ 15th anniversary celebration. [...]

    "Why would I want to do it? You heard it out there," Carter told the Orlando Sentinel. "They came to me. It just didn’t make sense. Actually, it wasn’t as loud as it has been. It used to be deafening."
  • What Do You Mean, The NBA Is Poorly Marketed?
    Matt Moore of Hardwood Paroxysm humorously points out how, using a screenshot, TV guide writers "poorly marketed" the matchup between the Magic and the Boston Celtics this past Friday.

  • Hollinger: Denver Nuggets nab No. 1 spot in Power Rankings
    UPDATE: John Hollinger of ESPN Insider takes time in his article to analyze Orlando's "problem" at power forward (hint: too much talent).

    The most shocking box score lines of the weekend had to belong to Orlando's Brandon Bass -- DNP Coach's Decision on both Friday and Sunday. Bass sat even though he's fared well statistically, as his PER of 15.90 is right at his usual norms and he's shooting 52.3 percent from the floor.

    His basic problem is that he's still only the third-best power forward on the Magic. Second-year pro Ryan Anderson has been borderline spectacular thus far, with a 20.76 PER and the type of floor-spacing game that fits Orlando's system. His D hasn't been too shabby either -- check out that fourth-quarter charge he took on Toronto's Andrea Bargnani Sunday.

    And despite the solid numbers, Bass has looked a little confused of late -- most notably when I saw him in person against Cleveland nearly two weeks ago. He's played only 20 minutes since that game, one in which he seemed a bit shot-happy and had a couple of defensive lapses.
  • Will Toronto Ever Get Over VC?
    UPDATE 2: More on the man formerly known as Air Canada.

    At the risk of offending any rabid Raptors fans out there, while Vince Carter let your team down, he's hardly the first athlete ever to quit on a team and demand a trade. [...]

    This non-stop "Judas!" and "Antichrist!" posturing makes columnists and fans look naive, especially when Carter is far from the worst case of this in recent history. Let it go. For his part, Vince was "incredulous ... and mischievous" when responding to the news that he was in the running for an honor. Of course he has a vested interest in taking it all in stride, but part of having a history is learning to put things in perspective. And in the past.
  • Orlando Finds Bosh’s Kryptonite

    UPDATE 3 (from Ben): Magic center Dwight Howard explains to Ryan McNeill of HoopsAddict how he and his teammates were able to limit Raptors power forward Chris Bosh, who entered yesterday's game averaging 27 points and 12 rebounds, to 22 points and 5 rebounds on Sunday afternoon.

    "I think the last time we played him we just gave him a free path to the lane and tonight we did a better job of keeping a body on him," Howard explained to me after the game. "We forced him to stay out of the lane and just not be able to get those easy rebounds. The guy who rebounded well tonight for them was Amir Johnson so the next time we play them we need to hit him and hit Chris (Bosh) to get those guys off the glass."

  • In The Scrum With Dwight Howard

    UPDATE 4 (from Ben): McNeill, a friend of ours, also passed along this link to Howard's entire post-game media availability session.

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Matt Moore is just wrong

That IS the reason TGS was watching…..and millions of other viewers, too, I imagine. How dare he. LOL.

by magicfaninTN on Nov 23, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

Seriously LOL @

JJ vs Shelden in a ECF Re-Match!!!

Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
Keep Sleeping on Orlando...

by BS Patrol on Nov 23, 2009 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

Don't have ESPN Insider

Where do the Magic rank?

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by Wmillion on Nov 23, 2009 5:23 PM EST reply actions  

nevermind got it..

9th? There are not 8 teams playing better than us. smh-boston 3?

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by Wmillion on Nov 23, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

hollinger's rankings are based on a formula

it overvalues win margin by a significant amount. strength of schedule is a big part of his rankings as well.

by MagicMark on Nov 23, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

gotcha.

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by Wmillion on Nov 23, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Overvalues in your opinion, of course...

We’ve played by far the softest schedule of anyone in the top ten, from memory. We were tenth before we beat the Raptors…

by eltharion_doa on Nov 23, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Power rankings really don't matter, in the grand scheme of things.

I write for Third Quarter Collapse and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 23, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

nope

just tired of the Magic not getting their respect.

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by Wmillion on Nov 23, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, there are plenty of publications that have the Magic ranked in the top five this week.

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by erivera7 on Nov 23, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

good.

I was thiking about the team and how glad I am we brought back Gortat. D12’s foul trouble would be a huge issue if Gortat wasn’t on the team.

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by Wmillion on Nov 23, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

thats more like it.

Only team that makes me nervous is LA. That team is talented..

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by Wmillion on Nov 23, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh

We’re playing like crap, frankly. The talent is there but I can’t fault people for penalising us for playing poorly. There are lots of good records in the NBA, so at some point you have to go against the teams who are mailling it in.

by eltharion_doa on Nov 23, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Mmmm

I’m more worried about Dwight and Peaches’ doing his best midseason “can’t be arsed” impression. I dunno if Dwight’s trying to do a Duncan “wait for the playoffs” thing but he’s mailed in some games this season, and he can’t blame the refs for all of his fouls – he’s athletic enough to not have to be in a position to give them away. Peaches looks like he did after his hand injury at times – not paying attention defensively, timid offensively.

Barnes and Bass haven’t gelled yet either.

Right now the only things I really feel good about are JJ’s bench play (!!!) and Anderson. Lewis will be fine, you’d think, but, I dunno. The team just doesn’t look right.

by eltharion_doa on Nov 23, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't look right?

I understand the Magic are a work in progress but the team looks fine to me.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 23, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

It's fine to be critical but Orlando has been improving.

I guess it speaks to the team’s expectations that people aren’t satisfied with 11-3.

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by erivera7 on Nov 23, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

with success comed stress

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by Wmillion on Nov 24, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

And pressure.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 24, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly-

It’s a long season and last year proved The Magic will play poorly against bad teams and good against great teams. 11-3 is a good record. And it doesn’t really matter if it was ugly or not. The team will come together.

by The Stan 'Stache on Nov 24, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Were in 1st...ahead of BOS and CLE

which has been discussed as one of the most important factors for seeding for the playoffs. Winning in Boston has to be psychologically good for ORL and bad for BOS.

Be happy!

by magicfaninTN on Nov 24, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

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