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[Ray] Allen brought up an interesting point: Did [Rashard] Lewis test positive before the Eastern Conference semifinals, in which the Magic beat the Celtics in seven games? Lewis was tested once before the NBA Finals and then again during the Finals. He tested positive for DHEA both times.

"When did he take the drug test?’’ Allen asked. "Because if he took the drug test during our series, we’re supposed to be playing in the conference finals.’’

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LMAO @ Baby T-Pain . . .

Pure genious!

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Nov 22, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Just ignore the comments, it's that simple.

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by erivera7 on Nov 22, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

WOW, this SERIOUSLY reeks desperation and is wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to start!

Also, if you “read” between the lines, this sounds like a player who believes that his best chance at a championship has already passed him by.

If I were a Boston fan this would worry me . . . :’(

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Nov 22, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

I don't know about that reasoning.

It’s difficult to ascertain what question triggered the quote.

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by erivera7 on Nov 22, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Ray may be right

And everyone here would say the same thing if Pau Gasol had tested positive prior to the Finals.

I only say “may” because I suspect the verification procedures take some time.

On the other hand, the league would have had a public relations nightmare if Rashard had been suspended in the middle of the playoffs. If this was the reason to push the suspension/announcement into the dog days of summer, then Ray is 100% right.

by Half-man Half-gortat on Nov 22, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME?!

Oh my GOD grow the hell up. Ugh.

I'm a girl.

by TheGiantSquid on Nov 22, 2009 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

Cry me a river

If Ray Allen wants to start complaining about that series then he should be ready for a ridiculous backlash. The officiating of that whole series was soooooo biased for a Celtics-Cavs Conference Finals that David Stern shouldn’t even show his face. Watch any game until Game 7 and tell me that was a ‘fair’ series. Allen needs to get over himself and realize that they aren’t the better team

by jtam on Nov 22, 2009 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

Enough about the referees.

It’s in the past.

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by erivera7 on Nov 22, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

That is pretty presumptious

Isn’t the point of a blog to voice your opinion? I agree wholeheartedly with jtam on this one. I am glad you have a short memory and a forgiving heart, but should people that don’t not be allowed to write about it? Especially with some of the horrid officiating this year to take Howard out of games (most notably the Cavs game).
Shame on you erivera, this article is in direct reference to that series (which is in the same past tense you are asking people not to comment on), and is referencing someone complaining about said series, which directly correlates to jtam’s point. I can see a comment saying you are sick of the referee talk, but don’t act like everyone else should be or shouldn’t talk about something that is still a major issue to Magic fans!

by Eric9321 on Nov 22, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It's just pointless talking about the officials, in my opinion.

Especially when Orlando made the Finals. And especially when the Magic could have ended both the Semifinals and the Conference Finals sooner, regardless of the refs, if BBD and LBJ miss their game-winners. Granted, it could go the other way too, but just saying. Officiating is such an easy target, it’s just a copout. I definitely am aware and wary that the referees can be shoddy at times but when everyone complains that the other team got favorable calls, it’s annoying. Why? Because other fans are going to complain the other way, ultimately creating a vortex of complaints that go nowhere.

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by erivera7 on Nov 22, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL @ a vortex of complaints that go nowhere

Precisely put sir. Rec’d.

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by pookeyguru on Nov 22, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

And for the record

I agree that it is a viable complaint from Allen, but I disagree that the Celtics would have won the series even if. Just the same as the Celtics wouldn’t have been sure to win if Garnett was in. Things change when you add or remove variables, and not always as one would think…

by Eric9321 on Nov 22, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Ray Allen is a baby, his comments don't mean anything

It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."

by ben_gleicher on Nov 22, 2009 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

Can't blame him for saying what he said, though.

Yeah, it’s in the past but I’m sure he isn’t the only player that feels that way, about the situation.

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by erivera7 on Nov 22, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

actually, I can blame him!

Watch me blame hahahah! Seriously, wtf, Eddy. If there were ever a time to stand up for this team and Rashard, now would be it, but go ahead and keep pandering to non-debate and outrage. This was a crummy, sh*tty thing he said and he’s an ass, pure and simple. To bring it up only invalidates our win over them during the semis even more, something both Boston and the MSM have been desperate to do since game 7! God.

I'm a girl.

by TheGiantSquid on Nov 22, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't agree with what he said.

I’m just saying I’m not surprised, considering I’m sure other players feel the same way.

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by erivera7 on Nov 22, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

what's crummy about it?

MLB players got crucified for steroid use.

by Half-man Half-gortat on Nov 22, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I can go buy dhea at the vitamin shoppe today. I honestly dont see what the big deal is. manny ramirez got busted taken hcg – a testosterone boosting agent that has to be either bought illegally or perscribed… a-rod tested positive for methenolone, an anabolic steroid that has to be INJECTED.. and purchased illegally or through a prescription – and was taken specifically because it is harder to detect that other steroids.. Comparing something you can buy from the vitamin shoppe to anabolic steroids purchased illegally is somewhat ridiculous. DHEA is not a controlled substance like other “steroids”. Busting someone for taking DHEA is like banning creatine. Then again, I wouldnt be surprised if it was banned.

by i2ambler on Nov 23, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Way to incite the masses there. Mr. Rivera. :)

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by Diosnomeama on Nov 22, 2009 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

LOL, I'm just trying to be objective and unbiased.

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by erivera7 on Nov 22, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Calling out his former first mate like that!

…because Ray Allen really found a way to beat JJ!

Bucs: Raheem will become relevant when his actions speak louder than his words. Gators: National Champions! Magic: Stop getting injured!

by chiefs_55 on Nov 22, 2009 5:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Sounds like crying to me

Especially coming right after Orlando wins AGAIN on Boston’s home court.

Even Allen admits that Lewis is a “good dude” and wouldn’t have knowingly taken a banned substance on purpose.

But seriously, if Allen wants to know a legitimate reason why Boston didn’t make the conference finals, he needs to look no further than his own stats for the series:
32/93 (34.4%) fg
8/42 (19.0%) 3fg

by RussL on Nov 22, 2009 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

No matter when the tests happened

Ray needs to let the league handle how it tests and handles player discipline. Stern, whom most of us [unfairly] assume is working against the Magic, didn’t see fit suspend Lewis at the end of last season……end of story.

by magicfaninTN on Nov 22, 2009 6:10 PM EST reply actions  

David Stern isn't working against the Magic.

If he did, Orlando wouldn’t have made it past the Conference Semifinals last year.

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by erivera7 on Nov 22, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

we dont think hes working against us.

hes just working for bron bron and kobe thats all.you cant tell any of us that hes not tryin to make that happen.

by magicman775 on Nov 22, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't buy that, either.

Blame that on the marketing/public relations department, not David Stern.

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by erivera7 on Nov 22, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

well its true any good buss man would.

thats a match up that would bring higher ratings than any other teams playing.

by magicman775 on Nov 22, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, yeah.

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by erivera7 on Nov 22, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

If that's the case

The Spurs wouldn’t have played in 4 finals and 2 other Conference Finals over this past decade. The Spurs DO NOT bring high ratings unless the Lakers are playing. And the Lakers always have high ratings.

While I do not like David Stern all that much, he isn’t stupid enough to undermine competitiveness in the NBA for ratings.

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by pookeyguru on Nov 22, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

WWJD?...

…apparently he would throw his old buddy under the bus.

by swamphead on Nov 22, 2009 6:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Don't agree with Ray Allen saying that

But he can say what he want. Eventually it will die away if the Magic let it. Hopefully they will. This Rashard Lewis took steroids and it made him an All-Star crap is stupid. Rashard Lewis was a skinny mofo in Seattle, and he did many of the things minus the post defense in Seattle. Steroids, last I checked, are not usually part of making a player skinny.

Either way, sour grapes is fine. I say let Ray Allen have his sour grapes.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

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by pookeyguru on Nov 22, 2009 11:59 PM EST reply actions  

He's STILL a skinny mofo

All Allen’s comments say to me is that he knows the Celtics aren’t good enough to beat the Magic with Lewis playing.

by eltharion_doa on Nov 23, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure doa

And that will be proven when it matters: In May.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea

by pookeyguru on Nov 23, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

He didn't take steroids, though. He (supposedly) took DHEA.

All the tests revealed was a higher level of testosterone than normal.

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by erivera7 on Nov 23, 2009 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I wasn't trying to say he was Jose Canseco

But thanks for the correction.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

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by pookeyguru on Nov 23, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I know, I was just trying to clarify things.

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by erivera7 on Nov 23, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

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