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Jameer Nelson of Old Shows Up Against the Toronto Raptors

For Orlando Magic fans, there were questions before the pre-season finished and the regular season started whether or not Jameer Nelson would be "back" - as in, return to form as an All-Star caliber point guard. From what I was told by a team source during training camp, Nelson looked and played like the Nelson of old. From what everyone saw during exhibition play, Nelson looked and played like the Nelson of old. From what yesterday's game against the Toronto Raptors showed, Nelson looked and played like the Nelson of old.

 

For the first two games of the regular season, Nelson was content to play the role of facilitator for the Magic. One can't blame him, given the numerous weapons Orlando has at its disposal, offensively. Nelson logged roughly 21 minutes against the Philadelphia 76ers & the New Jersey Nets and chipped in occasionally on offense. However, once Vince Carter went down with an ankle injury in the latter game, Nelson recognized that the Magic needed his offense. Nelson's aggressiveness was on display in the third quarter against the Nets, when he scored 7 of his 9 points during that span, but it was against the Raptors where he was assertive from start to finish.

 

In the first quarter alone, Nelson scored 9 points against Toronto on a bevy of jumpers in catch-and-shoot situations. One could tell, given that Orlando only suited up nine players yesterday due to an injury (Carter), the flu (Pietrus), and suspension (Lewis), Nelson was looking for his shot. With Nelson in rhythm early in the game, one could get a sense that he was in for a big day.

 

Nelson was quiet in the second quarter, only connecting on one field goal (a driving layup), but he came alive in the second half thanks to one of the Magic's main offensive sets - the pick & roll. Because people conveniently forget or don't know, it was Nelson that manned the pick & roll the majority of the time last year (51.59%, to be exact) before Hedo Turkoglu came along and took the playmaking reigns due to his injury.  So to see Nelson single-handedly bury the Raptors in the pick & roll was a sight for sore eyes.

 

The third quarter was an exhibition as to how Nelson emerged as an All-Star point guard this past season. Multiple times, Jose Calderon went under the screen in the 1/5 pick & roll with Dwight Howard and Nelson made him pay every time with three three-pointers (13 points total in the quarter). Not finished, Nelson decided to switch it up in the fourth quarter and attacked the basket off dribble penetration. One time Nelson converted on another driving layup and in other instances, he drew contact for foul shots.

 

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Once the final horn sounded, Nelson's box score read - 30 points (8-20 FG, 5-9 3PT, 9-10 FT) and 5 assists.

 

A magnificent game by a magnificent player.

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Watching the ol' Jameer almost brought a tear to my eye

It almost feels like every time he shoots the ball, you’re pretty sure that it will go in.

Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek

by funny80sguy on Nov 2, 2009 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

yeah

last season pretty much every time he set himself well he would make the shot. that pick and roll at the top of the key with dwight he would either step back and shoot three or run around the pick and pop up from the corner of the freethrow line. i would say the freethrow line jumper was probably his best shot last season.

by MagicMark on Nov 2, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea that’s the way to do it Jameer. He’s too good a shooter to not be going for atleast 17 every night.

by derekk on Nov 2, 2009 3:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Well, that's true of at least four of our players...

…though granted, two of them were out yesterday. And for one of them, shooting isn’t really the reason…

(I’m beginning to suspect it’s also true of Ryan if he gets 30+ minutes… which may not happen much in December and onward, but still.)

He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

by 3.3seconds on Nov 2, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes I agree

by derekk on Nov 2, 2009 3:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm real curious to see what happens to Anderson and Bass when Lewis comes back.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 2, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Bass has been playing pretty much just as well. He doesn’t have a 3 point shot or the mismatch to continually take it. I think if his defense and rebounding is up to par (which Im not as good at as telling), we’ll see more Bass playing backup PF than Anderson does. The rest of the games will go on which matchup prefers who for whether Bass or Anderson to play the whole backup minutes and a few with Lewis at 3, but Anderson is too similar to Rashard (and BOS, LAL should include Bass in the rotations) to not be developing and playing Bass. All my opinion of course :P

by derekk on Nov 2, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, his rebounding has been no better than Anderson's so far.

Bass is averaging 3 rebounds in 21 minutes to Anderson’s 4 in 25. (Both of those numbers are pretty much in line with what Lewis gets.) His defense? Maybe… though he was out there for that fourth quarter vs. the Sixers. (Lineups with Anderson are +46 through three games, lineups with Bass -12, though of course Anderson has the benefit of playing with the starters more.)

Ultimately, I’d say that unless the defensive gap is HUGE and I’m just not seeing it (this is possible!), Bass needs to really stake his claim as the demonstrably better rebounder in order to hang on to that spot.

He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

by 3.3seconds on Nov 3, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I like both players very much.

But I think Anderson brings a bit more on offense than Bass.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

With a full roster, I doubt Nelson's numbers will be that good.

However, Jameer has proven he can score when need be.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 2, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, from watching

It didn’t look like he missed 12 shots. That surprised me, he looked very accurate. I think that’s just a testament to how skillfully and naturally he played.

by thermodynamic on Nov 2, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

Yea it never looks like he’s gunning for it. I think it helps keep the defense not fully aware of the damage, especially as Jameer is very strong in certain quarters.

by derekk on Nov 2, 2009 3:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Was that the ridiculous 69-second possession?

That was hilarious – Turk makes a foul shot at 1:40, and the Magic keep the ball until there’s 0:31 left.

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Nov 2, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh, I keep on wanting to watch that segment

But League Pass Broadband seems borked for that day’s archives.

by thermodynamic on Nov 2, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure if I ever remember the Magic doing that to another team

Not too long ago, it seemed like Detroit managed to capture offensive rebounds like crazy at the end of every game against Orlando.

Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek

by funny80sguy on Nov 2, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

oh man, dont bring back those memories. Ready to see McDyess offensively rebound at command anytime when we play the Spurs? Atleast historically, Jameer torches Tony and the Spurs too.

by derekk on Nov 2, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't wait for that game.

The Magic and Spurs play very similar to each other, offensively.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 2, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

A couple misses were also on layups at the basket where Dwight or another player was trailing and got the putback.

Those plays essentially amount to assists. It’s the exception when Jameer attacks and something good doesn’t come of it.

by CaliFlorida on Nov 2, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Hedo used to do that (throw it up there for Dwight to get it), too.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 2, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

When will Magic realize this? Jameer, Hedo, and anyone else could drive and there was a pretty decent chance of putbacks. Now we have Jameer, VC, MP, Jason, and Barnes who can all drive hard where Bass and Dwight can put back dunk easy. Also cutting on a miss like MP has done a few times, and he can rebound and putback dunk too. Its a brilliant move if they’re chased off the 3 line or being defended tight there because they can all drive well and then Bass and Dwight can put that ish back up really good if it misses too.

by derekk on Nov 2, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, a ton of maybe not easy to see passes, but a ton of open enough passes to go inside where Barnes, Jameer, Jason, and Vince are passing inside to Dwight or Bass, but Dwight is not seeing some coming yet and there’s still some turnovers happening there.

by derekk on Nov 2, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

3-11 inside the arc

I could do with that being a little higher.

But if that’s your only complaint…

by eltharion_doa on Nov 3, 2009 2:51 AM EST reply actions  

JAMEER NEEDS TO DRIVE MORE!!!

He is settling for three point and mid range shots. When they played the Raptors, although he had a great shooting night, if he drives the ball and dishes it out to an open guard he will see that the game will be much easier to play. Since he is a small guard, the refs tend to be on his side whenever there is a slight bump or shove in the paint. If he drives strong the refs are almost always going to call a foul against the other team. So not only will he be getting the other team in foul trouble he will also make the defense move which is the key to finding open players.

by Basketball813 on Nov 3, 2009 11:40 AM EST reply actions  

Nelson does drive to the basket, he's just taking what the defense is giving him.

In this case, Jose kept going under the picks and Jameer kept shooting (and making) threes.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

With Jameer's three-point shooting percentage, I'm not sure we can call that "settling".

I mean, I’ll settle for a 45% three-pointer any time. That’s, like, a 67% two-pointer.

He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

by 3.3seconds on Nov 3, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

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