Orlando Magic News for November 19th: Stan Van Gundy Will No Longer Accentuate the Negative, and More
- Orlando Magic: Stan Van Gundy vows to limit negativity after private meeting with C Dwight Howard
Brian Schmitz of the Orlando Sentinel has the surprising news that Orlando Magic coach Stan Van Gundy has, after meeting with franchise center and team co-captain Dwight Howard, vowed to be less negative. He believes adjusting his attitude will have a positive effect on the team's energy and mood.
"I think, as a team, there was a lot of negativity and it's not like Stan's a negative guy," Howard said before the Magic left for Boston to face the Celtics on Friday night. "But it's like there's always some clashes and focusing so much on our mistakes. Instead of bringing each other down, we have to pull each other up.
"That's the only thing I wanted from coach."
This news is not inconsequential. Van Gundy's earned the nickname "Stan Van Grumpy" for his wild gesticulations and expressiveness on the sidelines. This development is one to keep an eye on going forward.
Click through to read the whole piece, which includes great quotes from Van Gundy himself. He may cut back on the negativity, but I hope he doesn't cut back on the humor.
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As an example, here's some of Van Gundy's wit:
Coach Stan Van Gundy, tongue planted firmly in cheek, on all teams reporting their players undergo "successful" surgery: "Grant Hill had five successful surgeries. Somehow he could never play after them, but they were called a success. They're all called successes and that means the guy lived through it, which is a success, I guess."
- Changing of the Guard
Kevin Pelton of Basketball Prospectus attributes some of the Magic's defensive struggles to Howard and Jameer Nelson. However, he believes Howard will foul less frequently as the season progresses, which will have a positive effect on the team's defense as a while.
The league's best defensive team a year ago has struggled at times this season. Orlando has been playing some makeshift lineups with Rashard Lewis suspended until Monday and a variety of players hobbled. Still, the poor start has been a cause for alarm for the Magic, with Stan Van Gundy criticizing the defensive efforts of Jameer Nelson and reigning Defensive Player of the Year Dwight Howard. Before Nelson was sidelined by a torn meniscus, Orlando was 4.6 points worse per 100 possessions on defense with him on the floor. Oddly, while the sample size is small, no other full-time starter has been a net minus defensively. As for Howard, his blocked-shot rate is down from last year's 5.9 percent to 4.4 percent, more in line with his career numbers. Equally troubling is that Howard's foul rate is up from 4.2 percent of possessions last year to 6.0 percent this season. Howard is too good not to improve on that, which will help the Magic's defense as a whole.
- Mentoring the young guys
On his official blog, Howard writes about how he tries to help young players in the same way Tony Battie, Grant Hill, and Rasheed Wallace did when he was new to the league.
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Tim Kawakami of the San Jose Mercury News considers potential trade partners for the Golden State Warriors, as shooting guard Monta Ellis has requested to be dealt. He says the Magic might be interested, but ultimately leaves them off the final list of six suitors.
- Milwaukee Bucks rookie Brandon Jennings is taking the league by storm
Although this link isn't directly related to today's Magic, I thought it was pertinent. Bucks coach Scott Skiles, a former Magic point guard, explains what makes the electrifying rookie Brandon Jennings so lethal. His quote reminded me a bit of Jameer Nelson."He's one of those guys who has vision and can score without dominating the ball. It's easy to say I want a point guard to run my club and all that, but in the NBA a point guard has got to score some points for you, and he can do both," coach Scott Skiles said before Milwaukee's 99-85 victory over New Jersey on Wednesday night, in which Jennings scored 19 points.
- UPDATE: NBA.com: League's best one-on-one defenders get plenty of help
John Schuhmann of NBA.com found that the New Jersey Nets have done the best job of defending L.A. Lakers star Kobe Bryant in recent years, in no small part due to current Magic guard Vince Carter's efforts. (HT: ben_gleicher)
The Lakers won five of the six games the two teams played in the last three years, but in none of the six did Bryant shoot better than 33 percent from the field.
Vince Carter was the primary defender on Bryant in those games (something to keep in mind when the Magic and Lakers meet again), but fellow ex-Nets Richard Jefferson, Jason Kidd and Antoine Wright also took their turns. As a team, the Nets did a great job of keeping Bryant out of the paint and forcing him to shoot jumpers. And when he did, they borrowed a page from [Shane] Battier's book and got a hand in his face almost every time.
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We need to get Stan to drink 7-Up
Who’s reaching out to tickle a horsey…
Everyone knows it’s Staaaaan!
read that article about dwight and stan
and it seems like a good thing that they are on the same level and can somewhat compromise about how to deal with the situation. hopefully we will be a stronger team in the future because of it.
I think so..
I know people work harder for someone they respect and care for.. They will preform for Stanm, but it is tough to completely buy in to someone who is negative. NO matter what happens they will have a gripe.
His leadership cascades down through the players. Dwight seems whine at every call and gets taken out of his game very easily, this may help..
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The thing I don't understand is why request a private meeting then the next day tell the media about the meeting?
What was the point of it being a private meeting?
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
better stated
a One on One meeting?.. Similar to the meeting the Giants players had with Tom Couglin?
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The whole world could see Stan being negative
except Stan. Dwight chose to man up and talk to Stan one-on-one rather than confront him infront of the whole organization. A good leader will not embarrass you infront of others, but will do what Dwight did. After they made their piece they took it to the team and the world so no one will be surprised if Stan smiles during a game.
by NC Magic Fan on Nov 19, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
Eddy/Ben - got an "Update" for you
Talks about Vince guarding Kobe…
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/john_schuhmann/11/19/numbersgame.battier/index.html
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
Noticed
I knew I noticed a change in SVG, about 5 games ago I noticed he wasn’t yelling as much or pacing the side line. Just sitting in his chair and observing and bring a positive attitude. I just thought he was getting somethin extra in the bed room haha. But I hope this is here to stay.
by Quartermaster01 on Nov 19, 2009 6:35 PM EST reply actions
The meeting happened just before Wednesday's game
I admire your precognitive abilities.
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lol
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
by ben_gleicher on Nov 20, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
lol Thank you.
Yess i know the meeting wass weds, just sayin he changed before the meeting. It was pretty obvious.
by Quartermaster01 on Nov 19, 2009 6:58 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, some of the players have alluded to the fact he's been calmer, for his standards at least.
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I kinda like negative, tyranical svg!
I really think he helps bring intensity to a team that could easilly slack off and be complacent (like uhm, how they’ve been sometimes on D this year). I just hope this isn’t like penny/shaq doggin’ on Brian Hill… I hated that… Team sports isn’t a democracy, coach should always be undisputed leader…
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by chiefs_55 on Nov 19, 2009 9:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Just wish it could have been kept private
- however now it is out in the open (Dwight’s choice I believe) and Stan has responded in maybe a more mature fashion than I would have in his position – the onus is really on the players to PRODUCE especially on the defensive end – last night’s performance was a nice surprise – maybe this will end up being positive for the Magic long term – my initial reaction though was not positive!!
agreed
If the players want Stan Van Nice Guy, then they need to bring the attention to defensive detail and the intensity without needing to be groused at. But I think Stan, in light of the meeting,. will be mature and wise enough to find some new tools in his motivational toolbox.
by magicfaninTN on Nov 19, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think it'll change SVG's personality.
He’s still going to be who he is, but will be more cognizant of his team’s morale level.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
I don't like that Dwight made this news public, either
It’s as if Dwight put Stan on public notice, and it undermines Stan’s authority.
That said, I agree with the underlying goal. The Magic are, after all, 9-3, and while they have some things to work on, they shouldn’t feel like the weight of the world is on them right now.
by gift of the magi on Nov 19, 2009 11:20 PM EST reply actions
I don't think he put him on notice, but yeah, the entire issue could have been kept in-house.
That being said, the approach was the correct one – first, it was one-on-one, then it was addressed to the team. Both the franchise player and the head coach handled it like professionals, so in that sense, it’s okay.
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Word.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
Ok, Stan went to Dwight. It's not a revolt or Dwight bitching.
Is IS a coach and team captain communicating!
by NC Magic Fan on Nov 20, 2009 3:36 PM EST reply actions
That's why I posted the FanShot, to clarify everything.
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