Cleveland Cavaliers 102, Orlando Magic 93
There's a lot of words that can describe the Orlando Magic's performance in a 102-93 loss against the Cleveland Cavaliers, in front of a nationally-televised audience and a sell-out crowd. Embarrassing is the first one to come to mind. Do not let the final score fool you because this game was over as soon as the Cavs stepped on the court to begin the game at the Amway Arena. The Magic couldn't afford to play a lackadaisical game, especially against a team that was prepared and rested after having four days off. But that's what happened from the opening tip, as Orlando seemed to sleepwalk against Cleveland. It was clear, whether you were watching in person or on the television, that the energy levels between the two squads were drastically different. It started with Mo Williams for the Cavaliers, who had an excellent game, finishing with 28 points (12-20 FG, 4-5 3PT) and 6 assists. In the first half, Williams was unconscious, hitting all his field goals (9) without missing - including four three-pointers. Vince Carter and Jameer Nelson led the way for the Magic, with 29 points (11-23 FG) and 19 points (8-15 FG), respectively.
| Team | Pace | Efficiency | eFG% | FT Rate | OReb% | TO Rate |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cavaliers | 92 | 110.9 | 54.5% | 23.1 | 16.7 | 16.3 |
| Magic | 100.9 | 47.6% | 18.3 | 16.3 | 10.9 |
As I stated in my chat with John Krolik at Cavs: The Blog yesterday, I predicted that Cleveland would win I suspected that Orlando would utilize the pick & roll a lot to offset the fact that it's greatest advantage - the stretch four (Rashard Lewis and Ryan Anderson) - wouldn't be available to be used against Cleveland. As such, in the first quarter, the Cavaliers experienced a heavy dose of pick & rolls (1/5 with Nelson and Howard, 2/5 with Carter and Howard). Early on, things were clicking - Nelson and Carter were able to hit a few jumpers. But early foul trouble on Dwight Howard hurt the Magic's ability to do damage in the interior. As good of a pick & roll player as Marcin Gortat is, he isn't as much of a threat offensively. That allowed the Cavaliers the ability to tighten the screws against the guards in the pick & roll during the period. However, even with that being the case, Orlando didn't have too much trouble scoring on Cleveland. Carter had 10 points in the quarter, Nelson had 11. The issue, as has been a recurring theme so far in the regular season, was the Magic's defense.
It was poor.
The aforementioned Williams got things going for the Cavaliers early, no thanks to bad defense on the part of Nelson. Utilizing the pick & roll for example, Williams was able to get his shot going early and couldn't miss from the perimeter because Nelson wasn't quick enough to close out (sound familiar?). Everything Williams put up, went in. The defensive problems were compounded with LeBron James getting off to a quick start himself, scoring 13 points in the quarter in a variety of manners - dunks, lay-ups, jumpshots, and more. In the past, Orlando has been able to deal with LeBron doing whatever he pleases on offense, but with the emergence of Williams as the second scorer, that spelled trouble.
Early in the second quarter, Howard picked up his third foul but with the deficit at 11, Van Gundy elected to keep him in the game and play alongside Gortat (Van Gundy stated in the presser that he wished he could have played Matt Barnes during that stretch, instead, to spread the floor offensively but he couldn't do it with O'Neal in the game). The rationale behind this decision was that the Magic needed another player that could defend and rebound, plus it allowed Howard to play off the ball (in this case, against Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Anderson Varejao) and not be in risk of picking up his fourth foul. The gamble paid off, as Howard was able to stay on the court and do some damage against Shaquille O'Neal on offense. On one possession, Howard was able to draw a foul on O'Neal, fairly quickly, in the post. On another possession, Howard was able to put a spin move on O'Neal and make a lefty hook. All in all, Howard wasn't having too much difficulty engaging himself on the offensive end against O'Neal. Once again, offense wasn't a problem for Orlando.
Defense was.
Williams continued to play like a man possessed and made five field goals in the period, including three three-pointers, that allowed the Cavs to keep its distance on the scoreboard against the Magic.
Defensively, Orlando was poor against everything imaginable - fast breaks, pick & rolls, post-ups, and more. It wasn't pretty and Cleveland wasn't shy to exploit the deficiencies, especially against a team that hasn't been quick in its defensive rotations like the Magic this year.
Yet Orlando was still in striking distance late in the second quarter before a myriad of gaffes sealed the team's fate in the win-loss column.
After Carter made a jump shot to make the score 49-57 in favor of the Cavaliers, James was able to draw a foul on Barnes and hit both of his free throws to stretch the lead back to 10. On the ensuing possession, the Cavs surprised the Magic by switching to a full-court press. Something Orlando handles poorly. As such, Anthony Parker was able to steal the inbound pass and eventually James drew another foul. James made the first free throw attempt and clanged the second one, but J.J. Hickson was able to retrieve the miss on a hustle play and induce another foul on Mickael Pietrus as both players battled for the loose ball. Hickson made both free throws and the lead for Cleveland was now 13. A couple of possessions later, James was able to make a three to increase the lead to 16 and that was that. Instead of the Magic possibly heading into the locker room with a manageable single-digit deficit with another half to go, the game was effectively out of reach due to numerous mental errors.
The remainder of the contest seemed like a blur because the damage was done.
One play that seemed to summarize the night occurred late in the third quarter when Brandon Bass was able to pick off an outlet pass but proceed to miss the layup in transition. Nothing went right for Orlando.
The bench, aside from Gortat, was non-existant when the game mattered. The final box score may state that J.J. Redick had 10 points but they were meaningless buckets. Pietrus' body and mind didn't seem to be on the same book, let alone page, as he played - to be frank - dumb basketball the entire night. For whatever reason, Pietrus was passive on the offensive side of the ball, passing up numerous shots and putting the offense in a bind due to his indecision. Jason Williams didn't make an impact, whatsoever.
And rare as it may be, Van Gundy was out-coached and readily admitted that he could have done better following the loss. Everyone was out of sync for the Magic, whether it was the coaches or the players.
So, I'm sure everyone wants to know what exactly does the game mean for the Orlando Magic.
The good:
- VInce Carter played well on offense, whether he was matched up against Jamario Moon or Anthony Parker. Granted, Delonte West did not play.
- The pick & roll was effective against Shaquille O'Neal and could have been better had Dwight Howard stayed out of foul trouble.
- O'Neal's impact was minimal, aside from putting Howard in aforementioned foul trouble.
The bad:
- Mo Williams scored on Jameer Nelson, which is a problem, because the Magic defeated the Cavaliers in the playoffs last year by neutralizing everyone not named LeBron James. It's one game but the next time Orlando faces off against Cleveland, Nelson needs to do a better job on the defensive end against Williams.
- Defense.
- The bench, aside from Marcin Gortat, didn't play well.
The Magic's problems are fixable because the majority of them reside on D. Whether or not they'll be fixed is a different story. One has to assume Orlando will improve, defensively, over time with more games and practices. Likewise, perhaps the team will be refocused on the defensive end and the players will have a defense-first mentality from now on. That's what got them to the NBA Finals this past season and the Magic need to rediscover that mojo (starting with Howard and Nelson). In my opinion, I think Orlando's flawless pre-season has turned out to be fool's good, in the sense that the team has been lulled into an offense-first mentality that Stan wants his players to break out of.
Offensively, the Magic sputtered a bit in the second half but that was partly due to tired legs, given that the team was playing on a back-to-back. Also, two of Orlando's biggest offensive weapons, Ryan Anderson and Rashard Lewis, were absent from the game so one has to figure they'll make a difference the next time these two squads face off against each other (assuming they're healthy). It should be blatantly obvious by now how valuable Lewis is to the Magic, especially in a game against the Cavaliers, where his ability to stretch the floor on offense can cause 'em a ton of problems and was sorely missed. And perhaps Lewis can help spark his teammates, defensively, when he makes his return next Monday.
All in all, chalk it up as a loss and move on.
Hats off to the Cleveland Cavaliers for playing an excellent game.
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I'd withhold judgment.
It can’t be overemphasized how much the absence of Lewis throws this team off. And even when we didn’t have Lewis, we looked pretty sharp with Anderson.
Now we don’t have Lewis or Anderson, and Bass has proven… problematic so far. He obviously does some things well, mid-range shooting in particular. But his rebounding has been practically nonexistent, and his defense… well, I haven’t been impressed with his defense at all, but even if you put a positive spin on it, you have to admit it’s not game-changing.
More to the point. teams have been able to shut us down from beyond the arc. I don’t want to overemphasize the role of the three in the Magic’s game… but let’s face it, the three is crucial to the Magic’s game. Yes, defense needs to improve. But better offense makes for better defense, both because putting points on the board puts pressure on the opponent, and because it’s a lot easier to defend a team when they have to take the ball all the way from the baseline.
Make no mistake, defense needs to improve. Rotations need to improve. Jameer in particular has looked lost on defense, which is surprising and a little alarming. But in all this “defense wins championships” talk, let’s not forget that offense is exactly as important as defense. And if the Magic perform at their full offensive potential, well, they’re sometimes going to blow teams away with scoring. They’ll need to work on that defense for the other times, but let’s not discount the importance of a high-percentage offensive game.
As far as offense is concerned, being able to put a three-point-shooting PF on the court has been a huge factor in that. We’ve looked almost invariably great when we had one or more of those out there. Shard should be a huge boost, both because he’s the PF we need, and because he understands the team’s defensive strategy as well as anyone. (See my comment below about his crucial role in setting up the transition defense and preventing the fast break.) Let’s see what they do with him… if that doesn’t snap tthe team outt of it, then we can worry.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
by 3.3seconds on Nov 12, 2009 7:34 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
Cosign this!
Orlando’s propensity to knock down the 3, and in volume puts a lot of pressure on the other team’s offense because a lot of times they are either struggling to keep up, or playing from behind. Just like in any sport, you play differently when you’re playing from behind. You tend take quicker shots, and on defense you tend to be more aggressive because you can take a few more gambles.
Most of our attempts/makes come from the 4 spot, but when you’re playing Bass (who doesn’t shoot the 3) and Barnes (who doesn’t shoot the 3 consistently) you’re behind the 8-ball because there’s nothing to keep guys at home. So once we get Shard and Ryan back, I think we’ll be fine.
Cleveland was playing for more than just a win, they were trying to regain a little psychological balance when it comes to the Magic. They were out to prove that they could beat “The Magic.” I have confidence that the next meeting will be much different when we’re at full strength.
No worries here.
Great comment and one that I would agree with.
Lewis is the straw that stirs the drink for Orlando because of everything you just mentioned. I had a few people ask me last night if the Magic should be worried and I said no, not until the team is at full strength.
Does it suck to lose? Yes, but have to look at everything in their proper context.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
Great post!
I agree.
I don’t want to say that defense is overemphasized, but that offense is underemphasized at times. Having a PF who can stretch the floor is extremely important to the Magic’s system, both on offense and defense.
Like you have said, if you can put points on the board, you add more pressure to the opposing team on their offense, making defense easier to play.
by thermodynamic on Nov 12, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
This game means nothing except for counting wins and losses at the end of the year.
The Magic couldn’t even play like the Magic — at any point — due to not having a 3 pt shooting PF. And the Cavs will be hard pressed to play much better than they did last night.
agreed
Still trying to figure out how they can double team Dwight and contest the 3.
Jameer needed to shoot 30 times last night. I was hoping he would get greedy and try to take over.
Bass and Barnes aren’t the players I thought they were, but it makes sense considering their price tag in FA. Bass is a beast going to the hole, but his rebounding is no bueno. Barnes is a terrible shooter. Neither player seemed to bring the energy I expected them to add to this team.
Not going to over-react, but I am ready for Shard and RA to re-join the team.
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From what I’ve been told, Anderson will make his return alongside Lewis against Charlotte.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
I've liked Barnes so far, actually.
Yeah, he’s missed some shots. That’s going to happen, and then some day it’s going to happen less. But he’s been a tough defender (though he’s still getting the hang of Orlando’s system) and a strong rebounder, and he’s showed promising signs in terms of passing the ball. I’d take him over Bass or Pietrus, to be sure.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
clearly
brandon bass doesnt fit in for the magic. we what we need right now is defense and with jj, jameer and jason williams guarding the 1 and 2 spot, i say we will have a long road ahead. for discussions sake trading bass, aj or foyle might be good for the magic for stephen jackson and and cj watson.hehehehe
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He does fit in, but he's best suited as a change-of-pace player for Orlando.
The Magic aren’t good when he’s starting or playing significant minutes. Stephen Jackson? No.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
Bass is still getting integrated.
Everyone is obviously right that we need to see more rebounding, defense, and intangibles. But statistically, Bass is a better rebounder than what we’ve seen so far this year. I think at this point you have to attribute his troubles to him finding his role on a new team. And doing it without a lot of practice time so far.
I would agree, sure.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
One thing that really bothered me...
…was Carter’s body language when he walked off the court at a late part of the game. It’s obvious he takes getting his ass handed to him like a child. Thankfully this is early on and things can be fixed but his attitude is the type that come late in the season could be a destructive force.
Aside from that and the atrocious nature of the game, E’s right…let’s just chalk it up to a loss. But I hope and pray this is one of those games that sets a spark off in their minds that defense wins championships. Turkoglu and Lee were not some sort of defensive forces, so there is no reason to suggest that their loss is why we suck on defense. Maybe some of the new players aren’t pulling their weight defensively but the defensive charge needs to start from Dwight and Jameer. We’ll see how the next few games go. We should all expect a blowout against NJ.
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I saw him and Dwight laughing/cracking a smile while he was shooting free throws towards the end of the game
I’m glad they could find some humor last night cause I sure didn’t
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by AB's triple double on Nov 12, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
I have more of a problem with Dwight's attitude than Carter's.
Carter played well and seemed focus to me. You saw him getting in people’s faces and competing all night. And I don’t think he’s fully back from his ankle yet.
Dwight on the other hand needs to start playing angry and with a lot more intensity. The smiling every now and then is fine, but the only time you see him noticeably engaged is when he’s complaining about calls. He needs to start punishing opponents. Despite his pre-season lip service to getting a title, it doesn’t seem like he’s on any sort of mission at all.
An observation worth nothing.
When I walked into the locker room to speak with Marcin Gortat, I saw Stan Van Gundy walk in and signal to Jameer Nelson to speak with him after he was done dressing. I think it should be obvious to everyone that the Magic finally realize that they’re not going in the right direction and are taking a stand in fixing it. It’s a humbling experience to continue to be outplayed and like I said elsewhere, I think last night was the breaking point. J.J. Redick, of all people, was the one to address the elephant in the room and stated that he felt everyone, including himself, needs to be honest with themselves. Only then can they fix their problems.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
The lack of defense, et all.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
I'm glad you're giving us this insight.
It’s good to know that they are reacting in the locker room and that last night served as a breaking point. Because if it didn’t then we are all wasting our time talking about this today considering the team isn’t going to get it together in the near future.
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No problem.
I probably should have put it in the recap but I wanted to address the game and the ramifications.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
I didn't catch that moment.
What did Carter do?
by thermodynamic on Nov 12, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
He walked off the court so non chalant and so slowly, it reminded me that if someone did that on any high school sports team I played on…they would be benched for the rest of the season. With that said, I’m going to agree with CaliFlorida in that Vince did compete all night. He tried being active and was the only one really doing it. His walkoff may have been frustration. In any case though, Vince “the Black Hole” Carter from the Toronto Raptors appeared last night but I don’t think it was because he wanted to. I think the team forced the appearance by not giving a damn.
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I didn’t see that. Glad I didn’t too. It seemed to me as if Dwight was really pissed, but I wasn’t watching him all the time.
I hate to bring it up since I harped on it all summer….BUT Dwight’s struggling to get 10+ rbs, has had 1 block in the past 3 games, and his free throwing shooting still sucks…how much did he work on his game? How high on his list of priorities was working on his game? Was it up there with making movies? I really want to see the DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR start playing like it or these concerns of mine will not go away. I know it’s still November, but come on…those guys in Boston have showed for the start of the season…why haven’t the Magic?
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I'm not worried.
Remember, we started off pretty slow last year. Jameer and Dwight need to start playing like team captains though. And concerning Boston, they are the only elite team in the east that is virtually unchanged at the top of their rotation. They don’t need to make as many nearly adjustments as we do.
It was just one game. For once, I don’t really see the media telling the world we suck and the Cavs are the best team ever haha
Yeah they shouldn’t because the way we were playing, the Cavs should of hung 40 on us. The fact they didnt and maxed out at like 22 should tell the national media that the Cavs have their own issues. Like for example, what happens when Mo Williams doesn’t shoot lights out?
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Williams was the x-factor last night, neutralize him and it's a different game.
That’s why I wouldn’t be too worried because the majority of the Magic’s issues reside on defense and if the team fixes them, then it’ll ultimately be the Cavaliers that have to worry instead.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
That's the best game Williams could ever hope to play.
If he plays the Magic 10 more times this year, he’ll be hard pressed to duplicate it again.
The Celtics' starting lineup is the same so that helps tremendously.
They’re only incorporating three new players so no surprise Boston is off to a quick start.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
The loss sucks
but if we can get the next one we will be 7-3 w/o our all-star PF. Thats what I thought we would go in the first 10 games so its not too bad.
Agreed that Williams going off was the key to the game and the bad defense. Shaq got Dwight into foul trouble, but Dwight gets in foul trouble with Rasho Nestorvic so I think it really depends on how the refs are going to call it and how many mental lapses Dwight might have. Shaq didn’t really do much.
I hate losing to Cavs but 1 thing that really stood out was how much these teams don’t like each other. Can’t wait for the rematch.
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Yeah, things got chippy on the court at times.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
Offense WAS a problem last night
Vince and Jameer were left on an island. Take away their production and Orlando had NOTHING. Their defense in the second half was pretty decent.
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True (Carter and Nelson had to carry the load), but offense isn't a concern.
You could say the same thing about LeBron James and Mo Williams though – take away their production and Cleveland had nothing. It’s pure semantics, at this point. I don’t think anyone should worry about the offense, especially when Ryan Anderson and Rashard Lewis come back. That’s not the issue here.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
The team needs to close out on shooters better.
I’m not sure if it’s slow rotations, or just not a mental focus to close out, but the number of open looks for 3’ that the Cavs had in the corners were disgusting.
Anthony Parker is brought into the game by the Cavs so he can D up Carter. When he’s able to shoot open 3’s from the corner, that’s a huge bonus for the Cavs that the Magic is just giving them.
Howard should be careful about his fouls
He needs to understand that with him sitting down, he’s no value to the team. He made a couple of silly fouls (1 in the first 2 minutes and the double foul with Varejao)…After the end of third quarter I didn’t even watch, they were just playing awful and not hitting shots.
Yeah, Dwight hasn't been playing smart lately and it's directly hurting the team in the process.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
I think the point people are making mentioning offense...
is that if we had our PFs regardless of the bad D we played we could have outscored the Cavs and still have won the game. Yes we need to play better defense but we are also a great offensive team and when the D is down the O can win.
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