Today's Game: Orlando Magic at Toronto Raptors; UPDATE: Mickael Pietrus (flu), Vince Carter (ankle) Unavailable
by Evan Dunlap on Nov 1, 2009 12:26 PM EST
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PrintOrlando Magic at Toronto Raptors, Nov 1, 2009 1:00 PM EST
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| 2-0 | 1-1 | |
| November 1st, 2009 | ||
| Air Canada Centre | ||
| 1:00 PM | ||
| FSN Florida | ||
| Probable starters: | ||
| Jameer Nelson | PG | Jose Calderon |
| J.J. Redick | SG | DeMar DeRozan |
| Matt Barnes | SF | Hedo Turkoglu |
| Ryan Anderson | PF | Chris Bosh |
| Dwight Howard | C | Andrea Bargnani |
| Game Officials | ||
| Ron Garretson | ||
| Bennie Adams | ||
| Pat Fraher | ||
The Orlando Magic aim to improve their record to 3-0 this afternoon when they take on the Toronto Raptors at the Air Canada Centre. The chief storyline is Hedo Turkoglu's first game against the Magic since they sent him to Toronto in a sign-and-trade deal, after making him an "unsatisfactory" offer in free agency. And, as always, the Toronto crowd will boo Vince Carter, the former Raptor who forced the team to trade him in 2004, vociferously. That is, of course, assuming Carter plays at all. He sprained his left ankle in the midst of a vintage Carter performance against his other former team, the New Jersey Nets, on Friday night and is a game-time decision today. It's worth noting that, although Carter has respectable career averages against the Raptors, he's less than a year removed from a game in which he shot 0-of-13 and scored 3 points.
The Raps' season has been pretty uneven. They opened it with a surprising win over the juggernaut Cleveland Cavaliers, but surprisingly dropped their next game to the bottom-feeding Memphis Grizzlies. Doug Smith of the Toronto Star believes the two are related, that the Raptors felt complacent after knocking off the Cavs, so the Grizzlies caught them off guard. Matt Steinmetz of NBA FanHouse wonders if Turkoglu's need to handle the ball is throwing the usually surehanded point guard Jose Calderon off his game.
Worse still for the Raptors is the fat that they yielded a combined 49 points on 19-of-29 shooting to the Grizzlies' power forward/center tandem of Zach Randolph and Marc Gasol. And, wouldn't you know it, the Magic's leading scorers are center Dwight Howard (20.5 points per game) and power forward Ryan Anderson (16). If the big-man Chris Bosh, Andrea Bargnani, Reggie Evans, and Rasho Nesterovic can't hold down Toronto's interior defense, the Raptors might be in for a long night.
It is possible for them to win if Howard pops off, though. He scored 39 points in a Magic loss in January because the Raptors shot impressively well from the field and committed few turnovers. And Bosh, a perennial All-Star already, always seems to elevate his game against the Magic. In short, this game should be a doozy.
UPDATE: Brian Schmitz of the Orlando Sentinel reports that the Magic have sent starting small forward Mickael Pietrus home "with flu-like symptoms." He'll miss today's game as well as Tuesday's contest in Detroit. Matt Barnes, who's opened the year shooting 3-of-12, with 8 points in 42 minutes, will start in Pietrus' place. Still no word on whether or not Vince Carter'll be able to play. J.J. Redick is ready to take over at shooting guard if needed.
UPDATE 2: Carter is indeed a late scratch, leaving the Magic with only Redick at shooting guard and Barnes at small forward. Stan Van Gundy will have to play unconventionally, with only 2 point guards and 2 bigs comprising his bench. Expect to see some very strange lineups, which may include Nelson at shooting guard with either Jason Williams or Anthony Johnson at the point, or Ryan Anderson moving down to small forward.
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Nervous about this one
We should find out how deep we really are today. I think this is the first real test, more so than Philly, and more so than NJ without vince.
Their best ( only defender) Reggie Evans is injured I believe, there gonna have to change the rims by the half.
I know what Bo dont know.
by D-RAK on Nov 1, 2009 10:21 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I just read that Pietrus was sent home with the flu...
We might be in for a long night if Carter can’t go as well.
We’re gonna be stuck with Jonathan Clay Redick and his brickfest…LOL
by MightyMouth on Nov 1, 2009 11:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I just read that Pietrus was sent home with the flu...
We might be in for a long night if Carter can’t go as well.
We’re gonna be stuck with Jonathan Clay Redick and his brickfest…LOL
by MightyMouth on Nov 1, 2009 11:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Dammit not having Pietrus hurts a lot.
Especially with how Barnes has started the season. I still think Vince will be out there. If he isn’t, it’s not his decision.
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
Pietrus.
I hope this reaffirms the school of thought that you can not EVER be TOO DEEP.
Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
Keep Sleeping on Orlando...
Not showing up on TV schedule
I’m looking at Comcast schedule for FSN and I don’t see the game mentioned anywhere. :(
I see it on Brighthouse's guide. If you are in the local area, it should be playing...
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
Just received a text from the Magic that Redick will start and Carter is a scratch.
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
Wow...so we have no backups at SG or SF today
We may see some really bizarre lineups on the floor.
"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
No way
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
by ben_gleicher on Nov 1, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Pietrus and Carter are out.
Magic have 9 players available: Nelson, Redick, Barnes, Anderson, and Howard in the starting lineup; Bass, Gortat, Johnson, and Williams off the bench. There aren’t any backup SGs or SFs, which means we could see a Nelson/Williams backcourt, or Anderson and Bass taking minutes at SF.
This one could get ugly.
Third Quarter Collapse: An Orlando Magic blog at SB Nation | Brandon Bass: "I just play hard."
SVG alrdy had Jwill and Jameer alittle bit together last game I think. They will see some time together I bet.
by derekk on Nov 1, 2009 12:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Damn, I just woke up to all this news.
Never trust a fart
by AB's triple double on Nov 1, 2009 12:26 PM EST reply actions
I someone blogging the game?
We don’t get FSN on NC cable.
by NC Magic Fan on Nov 1, 2009 12:27 PM EST reply actions
Goto myp2p.com
You can watch games online there, I’ve used it as a backup when directv goes out!
"Put it on Film" (not on the glass)
by chiefs_55 on Nov 1, 2009 12:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Did you check to see if the game will be on NBA League Pass? The free week is still going strong...
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
NBA
I thought all the games àre free NBA league pass until Nov 3rd?
Big losses, especially with Shard out. Time for D12 to go to work.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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by Wmillion on Nov 1, 2009 12:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Check that the free website is: http://www.myp2pforum.eu/nba-basketball/
"Put it on Film" (not on the glass)
If the Magic beat Toronto with 60% of their starting lineup either at home or in a suit,
then this team will start out 9-0.
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
I won't lie, I'll be a little surprised if the Magic beat the Raptors with three starters out.
That being said, this is a golden opportunity for Redick and Barnes to step up their games. Especially Matt, who’s been struggling to begin the regular season. As always, I’ll check in with everybody at halftime.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
Were gonna win!
Barnes did a great job on Turk last year in the 1st game. JJ please give me a reason not to hate you.
I know what Bo dont know.
by D-RAK on Nov 1, 2009 1:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I won't be watching.
It’s a sign of trust in our boys, albeit being a bit injured.
However, if my Giants continue to suck, I’ll go downstairs and tune in.
League Pass channel 3 and 4
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
doesn't offer it at all?
Because they have free League Pass right now for all cable and satellite subscribers.
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
I'd be watching online
But my computer crashes when I try to watch video. Heh.
I might be able to get a free run at the TV later to catch the second half, though.
Magic look incredible to start
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
Barnes' defense is catalyzing the team
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
Incredible considering they're on the road missing 3 of their top 6-7 players
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
Knew it
Barnes puttin in the werk!
I know what Bo dont know.
by D-RAK on Nov 1, 2009 1:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Holy Shite our team is DEEP!
How many other team’s could lose 2 key starter’s and their best bench player and STILL be taking it to a new and improved Raptors team?
Well I know of at least ONE!!
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
Well, I was counting VC and Rashard as the 2 key starters . . .
and Peitrus as the top bench player but I guess he’s technically a starter, ATM anyway.
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
So TECHNICALLY we're down THREE starters . . .
AND yet we’re still up by 8, on the road, to a team that beat the Cavs a few days ago!
SO AWESOME . . .
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
Who do we have coming off the bench?
Just Johnson, Williams, Bass, and Gortat….LOL…This is gonna be an interesting game.
not traveling with the team
he just had his surgery a week or so ago so he isnt cleared for travel yet
YESSS they're raining threes
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
pass the ball like they are we will win this
good call sitin carter we need him later in the season.
So is Nelson
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Quite a few of them tonight I suspect
We’ll need Jameer to play some SG.
by eltharion_doa on Nov 1, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Or maybe Dad will play SG
He came in for JJ, didn’t he? Cool.
by eltharion_doa on Nov 1, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Our defense is horrendous...
Clearly we’re not going to sustain the 3 point shooting. We have to play better on defense
nelson is back
ya our d is not there yet but its early in the season still.
Toronto is shooting 58 % from the field
…and 75 % from the 3 point line
If we win this game...
Van Gundy should get coach of the year…they should just close the ballot early…LOL
Not that I'm complaining . . .
But where in the HELL did THIS JJ come from?
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
Bass schooling Bosh on both ends
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
Hedo Turkobooooooooooo
I know what Bo dont know.
by D-RAK on Nov 1, 2009 1:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions
defense defense defense
we have had some good possessions but overall the effort hasn’t been there. i like that we have 4 blocked shots already as well as 5 steals.
WHOAA look that beard for Otis
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
When Shard comes back
I’d like us to try Shard at 3 and Ryan at 4.
I'm sure we'll see plenty of that look at times
by eltharion_doa on Nov 1, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
That looks like their best lineup offensively
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they were just talking about that
on the broadcast. i dont think it will happen too often because he has been at the 4 so much the last two seasons that i think his effectiveness would be more limited if he was at the 3. once we get our full lineup back though anything is possible.
I wonder
If he’s the sort of player who really needs to start to get into the rhythym of a game.
by eltharion_doa on Nov 1, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Backcourt controversy
Williams and Redick closing in on the starting jobs
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
That's what I'm sayin!
I just hope he can play close to this level for the rest of the year . . .
We’ll be EVEN DEEPER if that’s possible!
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
D12 is hittin FTs? . . .
And JJ on fire?
It’s clearly not Toronto’s day!
HAHA . . . LOVE it :)
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
The Refs look like they took the under as well... just sayin'.
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
nah
toronto isnt a particularly good defensive team, and the strategy of “just run straight into the defender and flail your arms” tactic i guess is not working for them on offense either
Bosh has gotten screwed on a couple calls tho.
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
who is this new guy on our team
and where did JJ Redick go?
Redick is having just as good of a start as Vince did vs. NJ.
Lets hope he doesn’t step on Calderon’s foot
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
i love it when the jj haters have to eat their words.
this is why we are not coachs. we dont know what we are doing. how many of us were like trade jj and im sure we did try to. but im glad we did not cause he is a good role player.
Domination mayne.
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Woooohoooooo Magic are up 56-40
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Dwight is 7-7 from the line
Wow.
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Dwight should have never turned his back on Amir Johnson
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Wow
Meercat nearly made that. Plus, Bass should have been called for over the back.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I love hearing the Canadian commentary it's like really bad Video Game AI
"Put it on Film" (not on the glass)
They're getting good looks
Just not finishing. Have to fight through it really.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Matty should have finished that
You Citrus Heights bastard.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
CRAP! I don't care how deep we are . . .
If we lose Dwight it’s over!
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
Not a good shot by Meer cat
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Great finish by Meer cat though inside
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Great job by Redick to draw the foul
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Great 3 by Matty
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Or great timing by Matty B on that 3 I should say
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
The Magic need JJ to produce in order to win this game
And, the Magic need to win this game because it’s there to win.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Redick has looked excellent, offensively.
He can finally afford to be assertive and find himself with his shot.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
If Howard has a dislocated shoulder...
our season is over
I don't think it's dislocated, it didn't look that bad.
And Dwight didn’t have any problems moving it or rotating it.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
That's what I was going to say
It could just be sore. Dwight may be superman, but he will have sore muscles occasionally.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Or a stinger
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yeah, or it might be a bruise.
Doesn’t look like anything major.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
The worst that can happen is that Dwight misses a game
And, umm, this is where having Gortat is so useful.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yeah, the depth is coming in handy.
The defense has lost a step but not the offense.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
Just so you're aware
I agree depth is handy for the regular season. Come playoff time, not as much.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I disagree.
It’s important because you can play the matchups, accordingly.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
Likewise, all those bodies will be needed against Boston and Cleveland.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
I'm not rooting against your opinion
It’s just that having rooted for teams in a similar position to the Magic, my experience is not the same.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
That assumes your players buy in
Players don’t always. Even on a team like the Magic where there isn’t an Iverson/Randolph type on the team.
My hope is you’re correct. I also watched this sort of transpire with the 2002-03 Kings. They were legitmately deep, and had a backup 5 that could have won 40 games as a starting lineup.
Chris Webber went down in the 2nd game of the Dallas series, and bye bye championship. And, the depth didn’t really come in handy because Keon Clark and Jimmy Jackson didn’t have a lot of different kind of matchup’s they were adept at exploiting vs Dallas.
We’ll see how it works out.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
This team buys in.
I know that better than most.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
So did that group
Until about March.
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And this is where I walk away
And leave it be. Time is the only answer that will show whose correct in this.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Trust me, it's different with this team.
Again, I know this better than most because I’ve seen the Magic up close and personal. I’ve seen Orlando behind the scenes, so I know (for the most part) what every player is all about.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
didn't look that serious
he was in a good deal of pain, but it wasn’t anything like jameer last year
64-53 Magic
So the Raptors made a bit of a run. All that proves is that the Raps are not dead.
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The defense bas been bad for Orlando but thankfully the offense has made up for it.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
layups
i am wondering how many uncontested layups they have had, i think it is probably somewhere around 8
Quite a few, I don't have a number.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
rotations
dwight wasn’t doing particularly well on quite a few of those pick n rolls, which led to some of those easy buckets.
Good observation, that's part of it.
That’s Toronto’s bread and butter, the pick & roll.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
With Calderon & Bosh it should be
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And Turkoglu.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
Yep.
Good point.
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What up.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
is it just me...or
does Gortat look a step slow this season. We’re gonna need him to step up in the 2nd half…with or without Howard.
I wouldn't say slow, just a little out of sorts.
Sometimes, Marcin has troubles getting more active in games.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
If Howard's nursing his shoulder
He should have the chance in this half.
by eltharion_doa on Nov 1, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Dejan Bodiroga is being talked about
This makes me happy. :)
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sloppy offense
the offense didn’t look very good in the last 8 minutes or so of the quarter
Ball movement, it just stopped.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
jameer took some ill advised shots
Never trust a fart
by AB's triple double on Nov 1, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but I don't blame him. Nelson needs to be aggressive, today.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
Sometimes you have to make things happen
Plus, and I always feel this is the case, a contested shot is better than a turnover. At least with a contested shot you have a chance at an o-board.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
he should bust Hedo in the head w/ a bow
Never trust a fart
by AB's triple double on Nov 1, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
He has been better, much better.
Dwight only has 1 turnover.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
I say let Bosh get his points...
and try to contain everyone else. Bass did the best job on him.
Bosh usually kills us, so it won't be new
Never trust a fart
by AB's triple double on Nov 1, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Bosh kills most people
Good basketball in being good at basketball shocker?
by eltharion_doa on Nov 1, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
I'd put Bass on Bosh, exclusively, and let Dwight zone around the paint for help.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
Bass is hurting their spacing on offense and their ball movement though.
That’s why SVG plugged Ryan back in even though he can’t guard Bosh
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
Alright, I'm stepping out. Enjoy the rest of the game, everyone!
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Have fun twittering :)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I just saw Dwight shoot a FT
He looks fine. although he does have a sleeve.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Nice take by RA inside
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
LOL @ Meercat saying this FT is mine!
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Bosh making a 3.....
Oh boy…..
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Nice pump fake by JJ
Getting to the line is a good thing.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Derozan not's going to have a good night's rest tonight...
knowing he got lit up by Jonathan Clay…lol
Makes up for his bad FG shooting today
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
+ infinity
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Barnes
5 freaking steals? Wow.
He could be looking at a pts – stl – rbs triple double if he keeps that up.
That would be most AWESOME!
He’s clearly trying to compensate for his horrendous play in NJ :)
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
Nice strip by Matty
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Tired, maybe
Trying too hard with so many key guys out.
by eltharion_doa on Nov 1, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Dwight doesn't have it going either
That isn’t helping.
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Very friendly roll for Meercat
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If you like defense, this game ain't for you.....
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Barnes is on pace for a 5x5 game
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
5 steals and 2 blocks
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
I was just looking at his line
7 points, 6 boards, 5 steals, 4 assists, 2 blocks.
Another block and that would be the coolest line ever.
by eltharion_doa on Nov 1, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
LOL hahaha
Yeah that would be totally cool.
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Player: A 22 points, 12 rebounds, 6-11 free throws, Player B: 16 points, 7 rebounds, 10-11 free throws
Who would guess that player A is Bosh and Player B is Howard…LOL
in dwight's defense
the raptors haven’t missed nearly as many shots as the magic have. but props to dwight’s good ft shooting night.
Orlando is 12-22 from 3
Toronto is 6-7 from 3. Wow.
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Bad mistake on Meercat
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made up for it there
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
Yeah
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Great D by D12
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D12 in the block!
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A lot of fans boo everything done by refs
TO fans aren’t any different.
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Bargnani is getting hot.....
I wonder if 130 points for both teams is possible.
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lol
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
T 3 pt shooting
7-8 is pretty ridiculous. Only person on their team who has missed one is calderon. It’s a good thing we aren’t turning the ball over today – only 4 so far, and this is the reason why we are still ahead by 10+.
That and Dwight's FT shooting
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
It's fun if you like offense
Not bad for an early Sunday game on November 1st. These kind of games are the one’s that I remember.
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Make it 8-9 for Toronto
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
Nice play RA
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Bad
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Bad TO by D12
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http://www.justin.tv/magicfan09
Never trust a fart
by AB's triple double on Nov 1, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Bad TO By Meercat
TO down by 6 now.
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Big 3 Redick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LOL @ Dwight
He knocked DeRozan on his rump.
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Fortunately the Magic are on pace for 132 points
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you've gotta believe
the magic have a better chance of shooting 47% from the floor the rest of the way than toronto shooting 57%
I don't know
When Jump shooters get it going, and there isn’t any real resistance being given, you can get it going.
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Or you can maintain a 57% clip
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Well...the Magic aren't playing any defense...but the good news...
Neither is Toronto…lol
JJ Redick has 25 pts
8-13 shooting. Yowzah!
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Squid can umm
blow Redick. :)
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if we dont pick our d up we will not beat the good teams
im sure as the season goes on stan yells enough well pick it up
I think for Orlando to win this
They’re going to have to score 120 pts.
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This game should serve as a lesson...
as to why good free throw shooting is important. The Magic wouldn’t even be in this game if not for 87.5% free throw shooting
to be fair
the raptors wouldnt be in it if it weren’t for 77% three point shooting…
Everyone's shooting the lights out
Nobody would be in this if anyone played some D.
by eltharion_doa on Nov 1, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
good point
mabey stan will have to beat some d out of our guys
I don't wish to piss on your point
But have the Magic said in the past they don’t think FT shooting is important?
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Has any team?
Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
Keep Sleeping on Orlando...
No but who misses FT's on purpose consistently?
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Ben Wallace?
I mean, nobody can be THAT bad on accident
"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
And I was just starting to feel sorry for Raptors
Who got Barngnani with their number 1 after Lebron then Dwight.
he is shooting very well.
Some might say he’s on fire.
Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
Keep Sleeping on Orlando...
He shot me down...
Bang Bang….
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Did you know that song was sung by Cher?
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Redick's having a great game
Magic would be down 10 otherwise.
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Great box out by Matty B
May not mean anything, but keeping TO off the boards is big.
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Great shot by CB4
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these hard fouls are pissing me off
there trying to hurt dwight
Bosh didn't try to hurt Dwight
He just tried to keep Dwight from going up with the shot. If he didn’t wrap Dwight up, he would have allowed that to happen.
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wraping and smacking are diffrent
he grabed by the neck and its not allowed
NO he didn't
He grabbed Dwight’s chest.
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Have you ever seen an elbow grab anyone by the neck?
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Dwight's angry
I don’t blame him. That was pretty bush league by Bosh.
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Well I don't think Bosh is trying to hurt Dwight
I don’t.
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I take that back
That was just a hard foul by Bosh. Dwight’s just frustrated.
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not sure why that wasn't a flagrant
pretty hard foul he grabbed him across both shoulders
There was nothing flagrant about it
Dwight was just angry. That isn’t cause for a flagrant foul.
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I just saw it
He never even touched Dwight’s neck. You watch it again.
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I don't wear glasses
So, no not exactly.
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Dawg...Where's the flagrant?
They’ve been raping Howard the whole game…that was foolishness…and Bosh is supposed to be his boy
Why should Bosh let Dwight go up for an easy shot?
Bosh is employed by the Raptors, not the Magic.
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Why don't you balance an infinite number of angels on a head of a pin?
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Of course you don't get it
Shocking.
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Yeah that's exactly it
I’d knew you’d get it.
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That last foul BETTER be called a flagrant 1 or I'll call BULLSH!TE!!!
Bosh did’nt even make an ATTEMPT to go for the ball!!!
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
LOL I like to see Dwight get upset
i think maybe because I know it will never be at me…
Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
Keep Sleeping on Orlando...
I'm not even remotley worried yet...
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Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
See its games like this where I wish Dwight had a mean streak
I dont even have a problem with Bosh’ s doucheness, its a competitve streak.
Get Mad Dwight!!!!!
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Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
I applaud what Bosh did there
That’s called being competitive and a hard foul. Dwight had the best response: Make both FT’s.
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Nice drive by Meercat
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And that's exactly what Meercat is doing
He’s going to the cup. Great finishin by RA.
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Great halfcourt D by Orlando right now
I love it.
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And why is that?
Dwight is angry. Everyone else is playing harder on that end as well. That hard foul may have pumped up Bosh, but it’s done a lot more for the Magic sense.
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since^ not sense LOL
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JJ Redick
Damn Son.
Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
Keep Sleeping on Orlando...
FML my internet feed just died
Never trust a fart
by AB's triple double on Nov 1, 2009 3:38 PM EST reply actions
It's why I just buy the broadbadn
I got tired of that last year. Still, I have to use atdhe to watch playoff games and the nationally televised games.
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http://atdhe.net/5550/watch-orlando-magic-vs-toronto-raptors
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Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
Thanks, I'm in Peru right now, be back in O-town for Tuesdays game
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by AB's triple double on Nov 1, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
That's dedication mayne
I’m impressed.
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Hell ya, I've watched the past 2 games online
Never trust a fart
by AB's triple double on Nov 1, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
I watch every game online :)
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fun stats
Orlando has 4 players w/ 20+ points
D12 14-15 from the line – wtf?
Toronto 10-14 on 3’s, for 71.4%
Calderon 4-6 on ft’s – he shot 151-154 last SEASON.
I think you meant 2-6 on FTs . . .
He’s already missed 4 today I believe . . .
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
Nope
4-6
Bosh is the only Raptor missing FTs.
by eltharion_doa on Nov 1, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
he has missed 4 on the season so far
missed two in their opening game against cleveland
Great drive by Meercat
He’s had a great game offensively, and has taken over down the stretch. Meercat FTW!
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Yea , Jameer is balling. We needed him today. Hopefully he will keep it up now to the tune of 16-ish on efficient shooting and 5-6 assists. He’s too good of a shooter to not be scoring.
by derekk on Nov 1, 2009 4:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Eek you're right
This was a great opportunity to get Meercat going.
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That was not good for nerves with Hedo getting that And1
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Great hustle for that board
That’s game!
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You know what
I didn’t realize there was still over a min left. It’s not game quite yet. Argh.
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Big win with so many guys out
It may not define the season, but the Magic played to win tonight. If nothing else, this Magic team proved they can outscore you when they need to. That’s a nice weapon to have in your back pocket if you’re SVG.
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a good team w/ 3 starters out???? what
Never trust a fart
by AB's triple double on Nov 1, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Good teams lose without 3 starters on the floor
It happens. Give credit where it’s due. Did the Magic win a championship today? No. Not saying they did. There was some good things; some bad things. It’s November. The Magic got time.
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im glad we have time cause we need it.
our d is suspect. we know we can score but d wins championships. its early tho we have time. stan will drill d into these guys.
D don't win championships
Great teams on 2 ends too.
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Or do
I cannot type today I swear.
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d dont win championships
tell that to the celtics and spurs
Thank You for telling me the ways of the world Mark Jackson
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It takes both… So you’re both right and we can all be friends (only if you even care to tho)!
by derekk on Nov 1, 2009 4:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
LOL
Yessah. You’z dun b correct.
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Okay the game should be over now
With that last rebound.
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If you guys want a laugh...
Go look at my first post of this thread…It’s the third one from the top.
No one can get it right all the time MM
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This was waaaaay
Closer than it should have been.
But credit to the guys for winning despite missing three starters. Considering the Cavs are crying over one starter missing two games…
The Magic are 3-0 now right?
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I disagree.
I know our defense was suspect but Toronto shoots like 70% from 3 and we’re down 3 starters? I think we did just fine!
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
As far as I'm concerned
The name of the game was survival. The Magic did that.
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assists
we had a pretty decent assist to field goal ratio tonight: 24 out of 36
Told y'all I wasnt worried.
This team is still mentally tough, lets see if we can move forward
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Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
That hard foul on Dwight sealed the deal for the Magic
And the funny thing is that Dwight just said on the Raptors TV feed that Bosh grabbed him by the neck. Even though Bosh didn’t. He certainly was tried to grab Dwight by the chest.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Although I will say that Bosh did his neck
Which I hadn’t seen before.
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wow you are blind.
he did grab him by the neck with his forearm watch again
I bet Howard and Bosh still go out to eat afterwards...
That’s the thing about guys…We can practically shoot at each other one minute…and the next minute we’re back to being boys…LOL
No, VC, no MP, no Sweet Lew....
NO PROBLEM =)
Magic beat Whoopi Goldberg and the Raptors
"Blue and white...ignite...BOOOM! - Dwight Howard
You didn't know that before? LOL
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Some of it was that Toronto is the kind of team that Orlando could afford for this to happen to
Sometimes it’s just as important to be lucky as good. :)
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True but to be fair they also played above their heads in many ways . . .
70+% from 3 is a FLUKE on offense for ANY team. What I’m sayin’ is that Toronto played better than themselves tonight and we STILL beat them WAY short-handed AND on the road nonetheless . . .
Without that, the Magic win easily.
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
So you're telling me that Dwight hitting 14-16 from the FT line isn't a fluke too?
Cmon man, flukes quite often go both ways.
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Especially when Dwight had been hitting 41% of his FT's after going 7-17 up until today
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And given that Dwight has shot just
under 60% from the line for most of his career, yeah, I think that was totally expected.
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Take Dwight down to 50% FTs and the Raps down to normal 3 accuracy for them.. Still same outcome. The D wasn’t too good for the Magic but they were without starters, playing weird lineups, and Raps can be impressive on O esp. with Bosh’s history against the Magic. It was a really good win period and a very fun game to watch so I hope you atleast enjoyed it too.
by derekk on Nov 1, 2009 4:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Better than losing
So yes.
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starters played huge
30 for Nelson
27 for Redick!
24 for Howard
20 for Anderson
Reserves didn’t do much scoring-wise, but SVG used some great player rotations to keep a strong unit on the floor at all times.
I don't know if I'll ever be able to say this agian but we don't win this game without JJ!
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
TGS is having a heart attack somewhere
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UR sooo right!
It’s a shame she wasn’t here to have to give JJ props or get the business from us! :)
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
Damn skippy
I would have been merciless. And, mocked her for being a Dolphins fan yet again. (Gotta admit, that is fun.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
This really shows why depth is so important...
It’s not about having a bunch of guys that look good on paper. It’s about guys who are ready and able to produce in case of emergencies like injuries, foul trouble, ejections…etc.
Otis is reaping the rewards of his investments.
otis has done a great job.
now stan needs to push d into these guys witch im sure he will
What About Barnes
Dont disregard Matt Barnes 12 points/ 9 rebs/ 4 assists/ 6 steals/ 2 blocks and we needed that to hold the Raptors off
Yes, biggest victory right there haha
by derekk on Nov 1, 2009 4:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
GOOD win for our guys from top to bottom.
A real team effort.
When our team gets clicking on all cylinders for offense AND defense they’re going to be a thing of beauty to watch!
So far we’ve been winning with superior offense and sporadic D.
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glad we aren't looking at a back to back
this is a good road win with -3 starters.
44 minutes for JJ….hope VC is better by Tuesday. Glad that boy’s in such good shape.
only 9 TO!
and Barnes has SIX steals.
both teams shot better 3pt% than fg%. odd.
looking forward to having RL, VC, and MP back though
The Best Team In The East
This game proves why were better than last year and why were definately better than the Cavs. No Vince Carter, Rashard Lewis or Pietrus all starters and still beat the Raptors on the road something the Cavs couldnt do with Lebron getting a triple double and the mighty Shaq…the sports critics gotta be feeling like asses once again for those bogus predictions
I think you forgot a team by the name of the Boston Celtics, who deserve respect.
Even then, it’s way too early in the regular season to declare who’s better than who.
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Celtics Not Better
The Celtics are getting too much respect for adding Rasheed Wallace that cannot compare to Ryan Anderson as we all have seen is an upgrade to Lee by far, Bass and Carter. The Celtics were barely better than us before this season and now this puts us over the top and to the doubters it will be proven soon
I shudder to think of Magic fandom
when Eddy becomes a hater.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Boston is getting respect because they return a roster that won a championship two seasons prior. Yes, age and health are a concern for the Celtics but when they’re fully healthy (and it only matters come playoff time), the C’s have the best defense in the league. Against a team like Orlando, that’s going to pay dividends because Boston has the personnel to matchup well defensively against Dwight (Perkins, Wallace), Lewis (Garnett), and Nelson (Rondo). I’m not going to predict who’s the better team because it’s too early to tell right now, but I will say that matchup, on paper, is set up to be a doozy. The key is Howard’s maturation on offense, Vince Carter, and the bench.
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I'll add I'm not as concern with the Cavaliers as I am the Celtics.
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And the reason is that they can't defend Dwight
Nothing they did will address that concern.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Exactly.
And Cleveland has problems scoring right now. If that continues, Orlando will win merely because of offensive superiority. Defense matters MUCH MORE against Boston.
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Yeah
John Keuster leaving is partly the issue, but I think there’s a bigger issue with LeBron & Shaq.
LeBron’s game is built around getting to the cup. Shaq plays close to the hoop. It is physically impossible for 2 humans to literally share 2 places on the court at the same time.
I think the Cavs asked too much of both LeBron and Shaq to expect them to work together. Unless LeBron develops a mid range J (and I’m not putting that past them), I don’t think the Cavs will be that well off.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
This.
The only other team in the east that can match our depth is prob the Celtics.
But we’ll see how they hold up when the age/injury bug hits them too.
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Celtics do not have the scoring ability we do.
by O-Town MagiCane on Nov 1, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
The Magic don't have the defense the Celtics do.
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No, it isn't.
When Kevin Garnett was healthy for the Boston Celtics last year, the C’s were #1 in defensive efficiency. It wasn’t until KG went down that the Orlando Magic became first.
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And it's not like KG is only a defensive player either
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If you base the entire year on Nov 20th's matchup
I hope you’re not going to be disappointed if the Magic lose. In the regular season, it is pretty much more or less just one game for everyone.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I wouldn't go so far as to say that
Orlando beat Cleveland up in the regular season last season, and come playoff time Cleveland still didn’t have an answer. The Playoffs are about matchup’s usually.
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It depends.
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True
Health plays a large factor too.
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Exactly
We certainly proved that last season as both the Cavs and Celtics fell to the Magic hell even the Lakers who we swept reg season proved that lol
agree with match up point but we smashed the lakers in reg season
then they smashed us in the finals
dont matter if we win 50 games or 65 games.
it matters that we meet the teams we match up with post season.
To be fair, that was with Jameer Nelson at 50%-60%.
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It's not about final standings, it's about matchups.
In the NBA, that’s ultimately what matters. Yes, the #1 seed (and to a lesser extent, the #2 seed) in the East is supremely important this year, more than ever, but in the end, if Team A matches up with Team B, home-court advantage sometimes becomes irrelevant. Wins and losses in the regular season are somewhat secondary.
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what about james posey on the celts being gone.
that has hurt them. i think the celts healthy are the best team in the east. just cause of their d. if we pick our d up then i think we are better
That affected them more on offense than on defense (and their depth, last year).
Boston didn’t and hasn’t missed a beat with Posey gone, defensively.
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one of the reasons i think the magic have better offense this year.compared to boston
if stan can make us play d like last years team we are a better team than the celts. right now the celts will beat us imo
There's no argument that Orlando has the better offense.
But Boston has the better defense, right now, and that matters more.
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I know, I'm speakin in general.
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I don't think it's so much cuz D wins defens
It’s that what Orlando does best is play defense, and that’s what Boston does best too. The fact that Boston doesn’t have as good as an offense probably means as much as that Orlando doesn’t have as good a defense.
We shall see.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
it's so much cuz D wins championships^
(If D won championships, Boston & LA wouldn’t have won anything in the 80’s. If D won championships, the Ewing Knicks would have won at least a title.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
The ultimate measurement is efficiency differential, in this case.
Given that Boston has the better defense but Orlando has the better offense.
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You said it better
That’s what I was getting at.
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The team that combines both is the best team
See: Chicago Bulls in 90’s.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
lol good dodge of the ?
i guess time will show us all huh. your right tho so hopfully we can pull it together come playoffs
It's both, as pookey said.
That’s why I brought up efficiency differential.
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Here's a good example
The 3 peat Lakers have offensive and defensive efficiencies in their 3 peat.
99-00 (5th in offensive efficiency and 1st in defensive efficiency)
00-01 (2nd in offensive efficiency and 21st in defensive efficiency)
01-02 (2nd in offensive efficiency and 7th in defensive efficiency)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
There needs to be an asterisk next to the 2001 team.
They didn’t even try on defense during the regular season.
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Oh I know
Derek Fisher not being there really hurt them too. (People sometimes forget that.)
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ya if we can only come close to those #s this year.
i think we will be a top ten in both cats. by seasons end
Last year
Orlando was 1st in defensive efficiency, and 11th in offensive efficiency. But, I agree the Magic can be top 5 in both categories.
So can LA, and Boston can be top 10 in both.
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its all adding up to be some good games come playoffs.
not taking away from the reg season
We knew that anyway :)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
check the stats
Im pretty sure the Magic has been getting the better of the Celtics the last 2 seasons including playoffs
Including 2008 when Boston won the title and Orlando got bounced out of the 2nd round by Detroit?
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So you're bragging about beating the Celtics in 7 games when they didn't have Garnett?
And Leon Powe? I don’t get it.
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Eh.
Magic were 2-1 in 2008 but KG was missing in one of those losses for the Celtics. Last year, Orlando was 2-2 in 2009 but the 2 wins were when Boston was, you guessed it, without KG.
Can’t really say the Magic have gotten “better”.
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The margin of the loss was -19.
Jameer doesn’t make up that difference by himself.
Both teams played at full strength once, and Boston won by 10 at Orlando.
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The Fact Is That We Still Are leading The Head To Head Matchups Since The Big Three Arrived In Boston And The Magic Has a Way Better Team Now. Whether You Win By One Or Twenty It Still Count As Only One
Whatever you say. To quickly dismiss the variables for the numbers is wrong.
Orlando isn’t “way better” than Boston.
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Or LA
Or maybe even SA.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
clev may get it together too. so dont count them out so early.
they may win it all just like we may
Not counting out Cle
Not counting out anybody. I didn’t think the Magic were a real contender last year, and the Boston series changed my mind.
You don’t ever know until you know.
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showed some heart in the boston series but they did not have kg
good point noone knew the magic would go so far
Every step of the way a lot of people outside Orlando doubted the Magic's toughness last year
Against Philly, they were a surprise upset pick. Against Boston there were people who thought Boston could get back to the ECF against Cleveland.
Boston proved they were tough, but I think Orlando figured out how to play tough against Boston. Boston was a tough nut to crack without KG, and the Magic barely found a way to crack that nut.
I think in the long run last year’s playoff run could be a fluke because so many players on this year’s team for the Magic weren’t there last season.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Philly was a surprise upset pick I mean
- shakes head at self *
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i agree
i think we have a long way to go to beat a healthy boston in seven games
Me too
Have a good one.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
SCHOENE projects Orlando to be 1st on offense, 5th on defense.
If that holds true, I like the Magic’s chances in the playoffs. But no more playoff talk, it’s way too early.
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Boston last year proves this point eloquently
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
One injury and it's all irrelevant.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
So far, Magic are 1st on offense, 21st on defense
Definitely a small sample size (and the teams we played are 4th, 5th, and 23rd on offense), but still a concern.
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I'll be right there
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Believe"
I think Rashard should start at the 3. . .
but since he’s suspended, that leaves Pietrus. . . hmmm. . . flu. . . shift Carter over then. Hmmm. . . injured . . . Ok, start the one player who has really struggled the most this year and hope for the best :) I just love the depth! Hopefully nobody else caught the flu from Pietrus though. . .
The one thing that obviously does worry me though is the defense. You just don’t let a team shoot 60% against you and expect to win. Sure, there will always be a few games like that, but I’ve yet to see exceptional d this year. Hopefully it is just the learning curve.
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stan will beat some d into these guys by the end of the season
we play really good indiv d but its team d we have trouble with
The Magic are also working 5 new players into the rotation as well
That chemistry will take time.
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No Fluke
Beating Boston Was No Fluke, Everyone Is saying They Didnt Have K.G But We didnt Have Jameer Nelson Either at least K’Gs backup put up similiar numbers like he does what If Alston was looking A Little Like Jameer
You can't compare Garnett with Nelson.
KG is the centerpiece of the Boston D, Jameer is an All-Star caliber point guard but that’s it.
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The defense is going to take more time than the offense, obviously.
It’s still very early in the season but I wouldn’t be too concerned. The important thing is that the Orlando Magic have shown instances of excellent defense so you know it’s there, just need to execute.
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Should have sat out Howard too. . .
Just for effect
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