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Orlando Magic 95, New Jersey Nets 85

Led by Dwight Howard's 20 points and 22 rebounds, the Orlando Magic held off a pesky New Jersey Nets team, 95-85, to improve to 2-0 on the young NBA season. The Magic were without the services of former Net Vince Carter for much of the evening, as he sprained his left ankle trying to drive around Devin Harris in the second quarter. Carter was spectacular in his 15 minutes of play, setting the tone on the first possession of the game with a vintage, driving slam on Brook Lopez. He finished with 16 points and 4 assists in limited minutes. With him, the Magic likely would have cruised to victory; without him, though, they struggled, and looked the part of a team not quite in top form.

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TeamPaceEfficiencyeFG%FT RateOReb%TO Rate
Magic87108.753.3%20.022.016.0
Nets97.741.4%22.215.28.0

Give credit to the Nets for not relenting. They shot poorly--Yi Jianlian, at 5-of-8, was the only New Jersey player to connect on at least 50% of his field goals--but mitigated it by keeping control of the ball. However, with Howard ending their possessions via a rebound (18 on the defensive end) or a blocked shot (4), they did not have the firepower to mount a serious comeback even as the Magic's offense stagnated. Trust me, this game wasn't one for the time capsule.

One of the Magic's biggest strengths this season is supposed to be their bench, but tonight, the reserve unit struggled. Matt Barnes, in particular, played erratically: 0-of-6 shooting, 0 points, 0 assists, and 3 turnovers in 24 minutes. To be fair, some of his misses can be attributed to his getting stuck with the ball as the shot clock wound down, but he indeed made some questionable decisions. Marcin Gortat was ineffective in his 11 minutes. A better team than New Jersey would have taken advantage of the Magic's lazy offense with the reserve unit.

Two reserves, though, stood out. J.J. Redick was pressed into heavy minutes with Carter's absence, and he responded. At times last year he appeared to force the issue, entirely too conscious of the pressure on him to produce. Tonight, he was much more easygoing. 12 points on 4-of-10 shooting, with 5 rebounds, for J.J. in 29 minutes. Former Magic guard Courtney Lee got the best of him on occasion, twice baiting him into committing a shooting foul with a mere pump fake. Still, the box score doesn't do J.J.'s overall sound play justice.

Speaking of Lee, he did have the look of a player with something to prove, with 11 first-half points. But all he proved tonight is that he's not quite ready to be a second- or third-option on offense. He wound up leading the Nets with 18 points, but he needed 17 shots to get there. And in 41 minutes, he mustered just 1 rebound, 1 assist, and 2 steals. I don't want to sound like I'm piling on him, since he's a good player, and could become a great one. But one only need look at Ryan Anderson's performance (16 points on 6-of-10 shooting in just 23 minutes) to see that he's a better fit for the Magic's offense than Lee was.

The Magic's ugly offense somewhat detracts from their overall solid defense. Harris, Lee, and Lopez--the Nets' cornerstones--shot 15-of-43 for 44 points. Open looks came few and far between, and with only 7 offensive rebounds, the Nets' possessions were often one-shot-and-done. That much is encouraging for Orlando. Nevertheless, the poor performance on the offensive side of the ball will probably give coach Stan Van Gundy pause; the Nets shouldn't have been able to give the Magic nearly that much trouble.

Orlando will face Carter's other former team, the Toronto Raptors, in a Sunday matinee. Whether or not Carter's ankle will heal in time to play remains to be seen.

UPDATE: Joshua Robbins of the Orlando Sentinel Tweets this news on Carter's ankle:

Per the Sun Sports feed -- Stan Van Gundy told reporters: X-rays showed no fracture in Vince Carter's left ankle. Not much swelling.

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we showed some composure after carter went down.

jj steped in and scored 12 points. bass really played well in the forth scoring 9 of his 13 in the last period. anderson is a great pickup . its like we dont miss shard, so far.this kid is 21 wow.

by magicman775 on Oct 30, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Man I hope VC’s ancle heels quick

I know what Bo dont know.

by D-RAK on Oct 30, 2009 11:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

He'll be fine, there's not much swelling so he should be back in a game or two.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 31, 2009 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hope VC gets better the right way and that can be on time to explode against the Raps. Fair game, like SVG said, I kinda liked the semi close game to get some clutch juices flowing. The offense (and defense) will keep getting better as they play more together.

by derekk on Oct 30, 2009 11:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Dwight Howard really carried the team defensively, last night.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 31, 2009 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

A stronger Team might have taken this game….

Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
Keep Sleeping on Orlando...

by BS Patrol on Oct 31, 2009 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

But they didn't and it's a win.

Take ’em however you get ’em.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 31, 2009 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

They indeed got the win

Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
Keep Sleeping on Orlando...

by BS Patrol on Oct 31, 2009 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Barnes & Pietrus got the Larry Huges syndrome tonight

I know what Bo dont know.

by D-RAK on Oct 31, 2009 12:08 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Atleast Pietrus/Barnes didn’t shoot too much compared to the starters.

by derekk on Oct 31, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

They had JJ syndrome ha ha
it’s sad JJ’s become quite the play maker and all around ball player except for his shooting, whooda thunkit?

I know what Bo dont know.

by D-RAK on Oct 31, 2009 2:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I saw JJ miss a free throw tonight

GOD DA&*$# JJ.. we have dwight bringing down our team average we dont need you contributing just because its the cool thing to do

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Oct 31, 2009 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing he can at 40% from 3pt line is the back boards

I know what Bo dont know.

by D-RAK on Oct 31, 2009 2:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's sad?

How is that sad? haha

by fwedo on Oct 31, 2009 4:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sad that someone took Otis out and got him hammerd on the night before draft and he used a LOTTERY pic on him. Uhhhh Fran& JJ how I wish we could get a mulligan on those .

I know what Bo dont know.

by D-RAK on Oct 31, 2009 7:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Vazquez? Yes. Redick? Not really a bad pick

Yes, Rondo was picked 10picks after Redick in that draft; yet Redick was not really a bad pick there. Look at the 2 picks before and after him – Patrick O’Bryant, Mouhamed Sene, Hilton Armstrong, Thabo Sefolosha. With those household names surrounding him, I’d say JJ was a decent pick.

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by JayPar16 on Oct 31, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, there were a number of terrible busts in that draft.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 31, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad to know VC will be OK.

Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.

by KingJafi on Oct 31, 2009 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

this was the first of many times

we’ll see carter crumple to the ground in a heap of agony this season. get used to it, guys. he tends not to be hurt badly, but he just must have the single worst pain tolerance of any person in the western hemisphere. as a test i’d like to walk up behind him and lightly pinch his arm sometime and see if he shrieked and fell and writhed like he’d been attacked with a deadly weapon.

anyway, another good win. with shard and vc out tonight, it’s nice to have the depth.

by pinthatd12 on Oct 31, 2009 12:51 AM EDT reply actions  

You try being hit in the BALLS and not cry

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Oct 31, 2009 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I can't imagine how painful that is

but I’m talking about general pain—or being sick. My father, brothers-in-law, every guy I’ve ever know, every guy my female friends have ever known/date, they were all pathetically miserable wimps. It’s a cold, man, good God.

I'm a girl.

by TheGiantSquid on Oct 31, 2009 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well thats not surprising at all

Your mother found a man that would allow her to be emotionally dominant. This is quite normal for her daughter’s to seek out men of the exact same ilk. Since their main example over the course of their lives has the married man being the “subservient” one then its fitting that the daughters seek out such a relationship.

I know exactly what you are talking about. My half-sister grew up witnessing a relationship where my mother dominated her husband. To the likes of she controlled the money, child raising decisions, everything. This marriage did not last and they divorced when my sis was 10. Now my sister has found the biggest laughable push over husband in the world. The guy is BEYOND whipped but they seem happy with this arrangement. They’ve been married close to 20 years now.

The difference is my mom re-married a more assertive man. My dad keeps his accounts separate, assumed the disciplinarian role and basically took hold over the head of the household. From what I hear my parents had it rough in the beginning because the 2 different personalities clashed. However since i am here that means they worked things out.

Back on topic since I witnessed a marriage where the man is the dominant pair I am psychologically inclined to be the more assertive less emotionally driven partner. Thus I find demanding, overbearing women less attractive.

It all goes back to how you were raised. You may vary well break the mold of your sister’s since you can recognize this relationship dynamic but chances are you find less physically/emotionally domineering men attractive

Also getting hit in the balls is the worst kind of hurt, twisted ankle not so much.. suck it up Vince

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Oct 31, 2009 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its tough to just try to be simply equal sometimes but as long as it works, it works. And women have higher tolerance for pain than men.

by derekk on Oct 31, 2009 4:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

This was an ugly win

At least it is a win, but it was a rough one to watch. Orlando was just plain sloppy. NJ didn’t have their first turnover until almost halftime. . . how many did we have by then? Oh, and the foul trouble? That was horrible, not to mention the Carter injury. Barnes looked horrible, and Gortat didn’t seem to be in the building tonight.

The one player I was happiest with was Williams. He stepped up with Nelson’s foul trouble and just played well. I haven’t even checked his stats. . . I’m sure they’re not spectacular, but I liked his play. Redick also played well, and I don’t mean shot the ball well. He looked like a basketball player tonight, not just a shooter.

All in all, I think it was a good game to learn from. . . hopefully they’ll take it to the next level next game.

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by JayPar16 on Oct 31, 2009 1:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Except for like 2 preseason games, this was the only other semi-close game, Its nice to see the starters play like starters sometimes.

by derekk on Oct 31, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Barnes needs to find his niche on this team..

What kind of player should Barnes try to become for us

1. A facilitator like Hedo
2. A defensive stopper like Battier
3. A perimeter scorer like Rashard
4. A “mix it up” type of guy like Matt Harpring (one of my alltime fav former Magic players)
5. A jack-of-all-trades guy not necessarily focusing on any specific area

I’m curious what people think so reply and let me know (should of made this a fanpost,,, too late POST)

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Oct 31, 2009 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rebounder, defender, make the extra pass, make the open shots

I know what Bo dont know.

by D-RAK on Oct 31, 2009 2:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

that's justthe thing i dont think he can be all of those things for us

i would like for him to put all of his energy in 1 maybe 2 areas. Like defense and our mix it up guy

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Oct 31, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt told me himself - a defender, an energy guy, a rebounder, etc.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 31, 2009 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL, way to heighten the drama.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 31, 2009 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw the replay this morning and it didn't look like that bad of a turn

I wasn’t able to see it live because I was working a high-school football game.

Me babe, steppin' out
Into the night, into the light

by Orlando Rays on Oct 31, 2009 7:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, it wasn't bad at all.

VC twisted it a little bit but not too much.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 31, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

We still won without two of our all stars...

Very impressive. Our depth is unreal.

by CraftyNole on Oct 31, 2009 8:00 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

D12

I know it’s still early in the season, but out of a total of 10 games so far, I may be completely wrong, but has anyone seen any improvement in D12’s offensive game. Anything? I have been a stout Howard fan and still am. It seems for this team to seriously be considered a contender, D12 has to show imporvement in his offensive game. He a freak defensively. His FT shooting is paltry at best. Coming into the season, I heard talk about him mentioning that he has improved his FT shooting and thinks he will shoot in the 70%. I really hope I am wrong, but is he content with where he is in terms of his overall game. I honestly do not think that he applied himself at all this summer to improve his game. Granted it is still early, but we shouldn’t we have seen some improvement in the FT% or some new post moves throughout the preseason, and the start of the season? I see nothing at all. Maybe he is trying, maybe he will never be a 25-30 pt player, maybe not for some time. I hope I am dead wrong, I hope he proves me wrong this year.

by Hassanali181 on Oct 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Dwight's definitely improved in the aspect of passing out of the post.

But to accuse Dwight of not applying himself during the summer to improve his game is just a ridiculous notion. He took trainers with him EVERYWHERE he went. Everywhere. To indirectly question Howard’s motivation to get better is wrong because you’re incorrect. I’ve never seen him more determined, more focused on the court since he’s been in the NBA. He’s been business-like in his demeanor this year.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 31, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dwight is noticeably better dealing with the double team.

He got caught looking silly on a quick triple team in the first half and got stripped, so it’s a work in progress. But you can tell he’s making progress in that area. He also, for some reason, looks bigger and stronger to me this year. Maybe just cause I’ve seen him standing next to Speights, Dalembert, and Brook Lopez.

The FT criticism is stupid. It’s the same thing as with Shaq — it’s not a question of dedication but ability. And now, with the pressure, it seems like Dwight is pressing and entering Nick Anderson mode circa 96. It’s gotten in Dwight’s head. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Dwight’s FT % decline a good deal. And as I’ve said before, I don’t think it matters with this team.

by CaliFlorida on Oct 31, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 31, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice to win..

  even if it was a sloppy one, it’s going in the w column.What most impressed me was that the team never held their heads down, they ground it out, as any championship caliber team should do.

by paching on Oct 31, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

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