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Lakers to win more than 72 games? Please, enough already.


I may be the biggest Laker hater on 3QC, but even a moderate fan should be scratching their head regarding the statement above.  Considering I really stop going to ESPN.com once the NBA season starts to avoid the homerism that exists on that site considering all things Lakers and Kobe Bryant (and maybe a little Boston Red Sox), I chose to go to Yahoo! to see last night's boxscores.  What do I come across?

"Can Lakers surpass 72"

I'm blown away, though I shouldn't be considering in this modern internet news age such hype around a major market team like the Lakers is almost unavoidable.  Yet, I am offended as a basketball fan that this crap is even mentioned.  Let's point out a few things:

1) The 95-96 Bulls team was something else.  They were filled with seasoned veterans that clearly understood their role.  Yes there was a Jack Haley and a Dickey Simpkins but the Lakers have deadweight of MBenga, Vujabitch, Morrison, Powell, and some other randoms.  That Bulls team was fluid in that their execution was flawless.  This Lakers team almost lost to a depleted Rockets team in 7 (ironically if Ron Artest stop shooting, the Rockets could of won) and caught some major breaks against our beloved Magic.  But now that their X factor in Ariza is gone and replaced with a guy who takes double the shots, is a suspect team mate at best, and thinks he communicates to the deceased Michael Jackson (rest in peace), the Lakers are going to surpass the greatest record in NBA history?  Please.  You have arguably the best defensive player ever in Dennis Rodman; Artest while a good defender is not even close.  I'll take Scottie Pippen and Toni Kukoc anyday over Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom.  Ron Harper, enough said.  Then there's Michael Jordan.  As good and talented as Kobe Bryant is, he will never be as good as MJ.  He can wear one number higher than him on Team USA and the Lakers, but he is not better than Michael Jordan.  Nor is he a better teammate or leader than MJ.  I digress...my point is to even suggest that this Lakers team can accomplish what the 72-10 Bulls accomplished is comedy.

2) Fair enough, if the media wants to make outlandish comments like that...then they should also suggest that the Magic and Celtics (notice how I leave out the Cavs, but probably should include them) have just as much of a chance if not better to surpass 72 wins.  What the geniuses at Yahoo! forget is that the Celtics and Magic play in the East and if any team will surpass 72 wins it will be an Eastern team by default just because they play worse teams more frequently.  The final tally?  All the aforementioned teams will get close to 70 wins but that's about it.

In the end though, it will be the Magic or Celtics that take home the golden ball.  Sorry Laker fans (and every member of a national media organization), your team's luck ran out in June. 

This FanPost was made by a member of the Orlando Pinstriped Post community, and is to be treated as the opinions and views of its author, not that of the blogger or blog community as a whole.

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They're still 1-0

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by The Dark on Oct 28, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, people in the media and this country have such short memories…but as you point out…the 95/96 Bulls handily beat teams that were out of their league. Ironically one of the 10 losses was to the Denver Nuggets who that season were actually one if not the worst team in NBA history. That game aside, the Bulls took care of business night in and night out. They didn’t win by 7 against teams like the Clippers especially when they attempted 37 free throws.

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by KingJafi on Oct 28, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clips are good this year

Might even sneak a playoff berth.

by eltharion_doa on Oct 28, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They need Griffin back, ASAP.

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by erivera7 on Oct 29, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True dat

I kinda feel sorry for them, even when they get it right it all goes wrong.

by eltharion_doa on Oct 29, 2009 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yahoo! Sports did that? Hmm.

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by erivera7 on Oct 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep. Front page video, title, and headline.

Then it was reiterated on the NBA page along with a picture of Kobe shoving his ring into the camera. You really can’t make this stuff up. Just a little disappointed it was Yahoo! doing it, they tend to be a little less bias then the other ones. If only 3QC had all the box scores then I wouldn’t have to go to those sites at all. ;)

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by KingJafi on Oct 28, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, box scores are about the only thing we don't have.

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by erivera7 on Oct 28, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is that, by the way?

Not that it really matters to me. I like going to espn.com to check out the box scores for all of the games from the previous night, but I was wondering why you guys don’t post the box scores just to put it out there for the heck of it.

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by funny80sguy on Oct 29, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be honest, I don't even know.

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by erivera7 on Oct 29, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, cool. Didn't know that.

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by erivera7 on Oct 29, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't either, until recently.

I think they’re fairly new, along w/ the ability to tag coaches.

by Ben Q Rock on Oct 29, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what? ...that's awesome

Now I really dont have to go to those sites to access the box scores.

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by KingJafi on Oct 29, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kobe Bryant had better be thankful the old NBA refs were reinstated

12 FT attempts by himself last night while the team had 37 attempts compared to the Clipp’s 16. This in a game where they only won by 7.

I was actually optimistic this crap was gonna change with the Kobe’s, LeBron’s and Pierce’s of the world but alas things never change

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Oct 28, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We Laker fans have alot of respect for you guys

No animosity at all from our side. Your fans have been nothing but classy from my experiences with them. But here I am pleading with you, don’t become one of “them”. And by “them” I mean on’t start bitching and whining and calling foul whenever the Lakers have some success. Don’t be like Utah, Portland, San Antonio,Cleveland, and Boston fans that can’t handle defeat and resort to cheapshots and personal attacks as if that will somehow make their team better. You guys are so much better than that crap. Don’t fall into that trap. See you guys in the Finals in June.

by wavenstein on Oct 28, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you for the respectful comments (especially from a Laker fan).

But I was not whining nor was I whining in June. I just find it insulting to my basketball and sports intellect that the media would suggest a 72+ win season for the Lakers this year. The same goes for if they suggested the such a thing about the Magic or the Celtics. It’s more a comment about how absurd the national media is when they write/cover/discuss anything related LA Lakers. With that said and as I wrote above; if anything the Magic, Celtics, and Lakers will get close to 70 wins but that’s it.

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by KingJafi on Oct 28, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And we'll do the same with regards to the Celtics and the Cavaliers

All three (LA, Cleveland, and Boston) are good teams, but there are still flaws there. It’s somewhat irritating when their flaws are glossed over, but ours are the primary focus of most of the stories about the Magic.

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by The Dark on Oct 28, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't worry, we're not going to resort to whining or anything.

As others have said, there’s a concern that the media tends to blow things out of proportion for some teams in bigger media markets. That’s all that was essentially being stated in the thesis of the post.

I have nothing but respect for the Lakers and their fans.

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by erivera7 on Oct 29, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

Just went to Yahoo!‘s site and couldn’t find any articles or videos titled that, so it’s a little hard to verify your information or see what they actually said about it.

I mean, for all we know, the headling went to a one word article:

“No.”

Please provide a link in the future.

by eltharion_doa on Oct 28, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, a link would be nice.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 29, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Had to track down the video.

Link and headline was removed within hours after I posted…maybe because it was a little over the top? Had to dig around the site to find the video. Anyways, here’s a link to the video:

http://sports.yahoo.com/sportsminute;_ylt=Ah567TMqeXWQ9ErX82FX6HwdwcwF

My bad for not including with the post, but I literally went straight from there to here to comment.

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by KingJafi on Oct 29, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably just a subeditor

Chasing clickthroughs. It’s just a highlights show and that 72 games thing is mentioned in one comment about the hype coming from the LA media.

Pretty misleading.

by eltharion_doa on Oct 29, 2009 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly...yet it was a front page headlline on Yahoo! Sports at 10am on Wednesday morning.

The underlying (possibly subliminal) message is there. That is what they want you to read when you check your sports news in the morning. And it isn’t directed at the hardcore fan, its more for the passing fan. That’s why its so frustrating to me.

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by KingJafi on Oct 29, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yay for mainstream media!

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 29, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you rely on controversy to move volume...

…you tend to wind up with extreme black/white fallacies

[/philosophy]

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I'll be right there
I'll never leave
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Believe"

by The Dark on Oct 29, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zing!

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by erivera7 on Oct 29, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

touche

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by KingJafi on Oct 29, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mmmm

Hype gets more clicks than reason, we all know this.

by eltharion_doa on Oct 29, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And here we are thinking the media is bad...

Some examples of the beans the dirty ref is spilling. Not good for the NBA or D.Stern.

http://deadspin.com/5392067/excerpts-from-the-book-the-nba-doesnt-want-you-to-read

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by KingJafi on Oct 29, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not good.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 29, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is intriguing...

I wonder who LeBrick pissed off to miss his supposed “anointed trip to the finals?”

by pianolady on Oct 29, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most of the big conspiracy stuff sounds bogus

But refs having it in for certain players? Refs favouring stars? Refs favouring big market teams? Refs favouring home teams? Refs getting payback on those who rip them? Ain’t nothing surprising there…

by eltharion_doa on Oct 29, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

laker fan here

and i really couldnt care less about winning 72
it wont happen
i only care about maybe getting best record in the league or something but thats it

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by shaqfor3 on Oct 31, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually

The 72 wins question was posed to Boston’s Rasheed Wallace, and it was talked about at length. If Orlando continues it’s undefeated streak there will be talk too. Pretty sure the media is just throwing crap out there to bait players and fans, because at the beginning of the season, anticipations and expectations are always high. It happens every year, there’s really no need to be offended.

by brianfbb on Nov 2, 2009 6:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The Magic are on pace to go 82-0

nuff said

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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