Orlando Magic News for October 24th: Focusing on Vince Carter's Past and Present
-
Bill Simmons NBA season preview and 33 most intriguing NBA people
Bill Simmons names Orlando Magic guard Vince Carter the 4th-most-intriguing player in the coming season. Here's part of his reasoning:
Fact: He's teaming up with a former Coach of the Year (Stan Van Jeremy), the league's best center (Dwight Howard), the league's best 3-point shooting forward (Rashard Lewis), an All-Star point guard (Jameer Nelson) and 4-5 solid role players on a team that desperately needs his ability to create his own shot and shoot threes. He's also going to be protected defensively for the first time in his career.
Put it this way: If Vince Carter is a great basketball player, if he has ANY greatness in him, then it's going to surface this season. Or else it wasn't there in the first place. Either way, we will have an answer. Which makes him pretty damned intriguing.
-
Vince Carter Loving The Game Alongside Dwight Howard
Tim Povtak of NBA FanHouse notes how Vince is enjoying the luxury of playing alongside a dominant big man like Dwight Howard.
"It's not so much a different role as I won't be doing it for as long each night. I won't have the ball 32-34 minutes a game trying to create for everyone else," he said. "I'll be playing off other people. Dwight will have the ball. Rashard will have the ball. Our short, little point guard will have the ball."
-
The Ambivalence & Realization of Vince Carter
Sandy Dover of SLAM ONLINE breaks down his thoughts on Carter from when he was as a freshman at North Carolina to where he is as a player for the Orlando Magic.
Three links to previews, plus a Dwight Howard blog update, after the jump.
-
BDL's 2009-10 NBA Preview: Orlando Magic
If you've read Yahoo! Sports' NBA preview magazine, you know that Kelly Dwyer recognizes the Magic's potential greatness. He re-enforces that sentiment in his preview for Ball Don't Lie, while adding that there's one big thing that could derail the Magic's season:
The only trip up I see with the Magic is a bit of complacency.
Last year's team, I'm sorry, but it overachieved. I'm not telling you that it was worse than an Eastern Conference champion, but by maxing out it's absolute potential, it overachieved. Because no team ever really maxes out like that.
But Stan Van Gundy? He had these guys playing in the Finals, every night. He had them in the moment, working, terrorizing teams defensively, and doing what it could offensively.
Does that sustain? Can they keep up this sort of dogged effort for two consecutive seasons? When we say "[young player who is a year older] will improve," we're counting on an improvement from 2008-09, when the player in question gave his all. Does that happen again?
-
Player to Watch: Jameer Nelson
Meanwhile, Tom Ziller names Jameer Nelson the Magic's "Player to Watch" in the coming season.
Two of the most frequent questions through this Player to Watch series have been "Is he real?" and "Is he back?" That stands to reason: so many teams rely on internal improvement, especially with the league's financial situation restarting a leaguewide thaw on superstar trades (Shaquille O'Neal aside). Fans need to know whether they can count on improving players to keep on going, and whether injured stars can be expected to return to form.
You'd think Magic point guard Jameer Nelson would be facing the latter query -- has Jam's separated shoulder healed well enough to recreate Orlando's awesome starting five? But to me the real question is whether the pre-injury Nelson was even real, or just a short-lived mirage of elite play ready to fall back to Earth.
Okay, that sounds pretty gloomy, but Ziller goes on to add, "Luckily for Orlando, a substantial drop-off would still make Nelson one of the most effective shooters in the league, and would still mean great things for the Magic offense."
-
NBA predictions: 2009-10 Defensive Player of the Year will be …
ESPN's panel of 20 NBA experts predict who will win the Defensive Player of the Year award. The Magic are represented in 16 of those 20 votes. Unsurprisingly, 15 picked Dwight Howard to repeat. Mickael Pietrus received the other Magic vote, thanks to Dr. Jack Ramsay.
-
In his latest blog entry, Dwight Howard discusses his readiness to start the regular season.
0 recs |
29 comments
|
Comments
"our short little point guard"
hahahahaha
I love this team.
by fwedo on Oct 24, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I remember Jameer saying that MP referred to him as “Midget” lmao
"Blue and white...ignite...BOOOM! - Dwight Howard
by magic12ball on Oct 24, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." Marcin Gortat
by erivera7 on Oct 24, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Slam article on Vince
The open paragraph? Holy crap…lol
"My features are that of a god, its not a facade these rappers wanna be NaS"- Nasir Jones QB's Finest
Founder and only member of the Kristin Kreuk Appreciation Society, and future Husband
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
by Wasabi Steak on Oct 24, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike Moreau of Hoopsworld had a nice ranking of the PGs with Nelson in a fair spot.
by derekk on Oct 24, 2009 7:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Cool, thanks.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." Marcin Gortat
by erivera7 on Oct 24, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rondo should NOT be in that first grouping.
by fwedo on Oct 25, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't put Billups there either
Paul, yes. Williams, yes. Rose, yes. Parker, probably. Billups? Sorry, but he doesn’t scare me any more. I’d put at least two guys from the “want them bad” list above him, plus Rondo (who’s not a “move heaven and earth” guy either).
"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
by The Dark on Oct 26, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First off, Chris Paul should be in his own group.
As for Billups, he’s better (at this point) than Rose.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
by erivera7 on Oct 26, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Intensity
Does that sustain? Can they keep up this sort of dogged effort for two consecutive seasons?
Doesn’t adding some new guys help with this dynamic? J Will, Bass, Anderson, Barnes, and Carter didn’t have to sustain the intensity last season in the same way or with the voice of SVG driving it. But even with the returning guys we have, I think the short answer for this team is, “YES!”
by magicfaninTN on Oct 24, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they can.
With so many new players on the roster, I doubt complacency will be too much of an issue.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." Marcin Gortat
by erivera7 on Oct 24, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vince Carter has Greatness in him!
by derekk on Oct 24, 2009 8:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Vince Carter is greatness! haha
I know what Bo dont know.
by D-RAK on Oct 24, 2009 9:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
My concern is definitely not Vince Carter
It is who will get to play and when. The main guys are not the issue, it is how Stan utilizes his bench / 5th guy, i.e. Ryan, Reddick, Pietrus, Bass, and Barnes. Man, remember when last season, all the analysts said our bench was horrid, and it turned out to be one of our strong points in the eastern conf. playoffs! No we have so much talent, the hard part is going to be the ability to use our best guys. I wish we could transform Ryan or Rashard into our SF.
1) Howard, Ryan, Rashard, Carter, Nelson
2) Gortat, Bass, Barnes, Pietrus, Willi.
Pine Riders) Reddick, AJ, Foyle, AnonymousPlayerGuy
I hate to say it, but we might NEED to trade some players for a single presence, just to clear the logjam we have. What a great problem for us to have! Hopefully it just doesn’t lead to second guessing of the coach for whom he decides to play, especially when we lose a game.
by Eric9321 on Oct 24, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the NBA
Injuries WILL occur. I think the Magic learned their lesson last year and that is why you see the talent stacked on this team like you do.
Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
Keep Sleeping on Orlando...
by BS Patrol on Oct 24, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way do the Magic trade away their depth.
Orlando fans complained about too many shooting guards this past season and guess what happened? Stan Van Gundy needed all of them. Never underestimate depth because anything can happen.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." Marcin Gortat
by erivera7 on Oct 24, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I for one wouldn’t get mad if we really, really upgraded one of the forward spots, especially with defense, even if we lost depth, we’d have a TPE
by derekk on Oct 24, 2009 11:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
That's not free money, though.
The Magic’s payroll, right now, is roughly $82 million .. it’d be tough for ownership to pay more money. Honestly, I don’t think Orlando needs to anything with its roster. Right now, at least.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." Marcin Gortat
by erivera7 on Oct 24, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get it
1) This is the sort of team we’ve always wanted.
2) Great Depth
3) Chemistry seems to be there.
4) We’re in a win now mode.
But it’s amazing when you still here fans talking about trade scenarios. How come we can’t just be happy and enjoy the season, with the team Otis put together? I just don’t get it, when some people start mentioning this person for that, when the season hasn’t even started. Go Magic!!
by HustlerInc on Oct 25, 2009 12:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
the pietrus selection had me dying! the ’ol doc must not have realized that an 8 year old could draw a foul on pietrus with a pump fake….
….sorry for that, my feelings on pietrus are already well documented.
by coque429 on Oct 25, 2009 2:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He can really defend tho, esp. if focused.
by derekk on Oct 25, 2009 4:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I just noticed something, Simmons is incorrect when saying 'Coach of the Year'.
Stan Van Gundy has never garnered that honor as a coach in the NBA.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
by erivera7 on Oct 25, 2009 3:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was gonna say--
“I’m pretty sure that has just happened in my imagination”
by Stan in a Van (Down by the River) on Oct 25, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, yeah.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
by erivera7 on Oct 26, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so true!
in that context, it almost seems win/win for Vince.
by lugowsky on Oct 26, 2009 5:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

by 

















