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Orlando Magic 117, Indiana Pacers 87

There's no doubt that the pre-season doesn't mean much and the Indiana Pacers were handicapped against the Orlando Magic (who were without Rashard Lewis) but something has to be said for how the Magic have been steamrolling over teams in exhibition play the past few weeks. Last night was no different, as the Pacers were defeated by a score of 117-87. In what's been a continued trend for Orlando in the pre-season, it was a balanced offensive attack that sparked the victory - led by Vince Carter's 21 points (4-12 from the field, 12-12 at the charity stripe). But it shouldn't go without saying that the Magic's defense played an equal part in the win, holding the Pacers to under 40% shooting (3-26 beyond the arc, 12%). With each game (and each victory), Orlando looks more like a team than a collective group of players.

 

TeamPaceEfficiencyeFG%FT RateOReb%TO Rate
Pacers 100 87.0 41.5% 15.9 9.8 15.0
Magic 116.6 52.5% 43.0 23.3 13.9

 

Given that head coach Stan Van Gundy started Matt Barnes at power forward, it was to be suspected that the Magic would run a number of 4-out/1-in offensive sets and that's what occurred beginning in the first quarter. In two separate instances within that offense, Jameer Nelson netted an open look from three but missed and Dwight Howard got the ball deep in the post but was fouled. It wasn't too difficult for Orlando to put itself in positions to succeed, offensively. For example, Howard posted up in the paint on the left side of the court, faced up, went left around Roy Hibbert using his athleticism and speed, and made a reverse layup. Another time, Howard and Nelson hooked up for an alley-oop that got the Amway Arena crowd to its feet. Shots weren't falling at first, but the offense looked crisp. This was particularly magnified when Jason Williams entered the contest mid-way through the first quarter. Williams quickly asserted his presence, offensively, hitting a corner three and dishing off a nifty assist to Marcin Gortat. Defensively, Williams looked good, making his man work for his points. And Barnes? He matched up well against Troy Murphy, chasing him off the three-point line, and using his quickness as an advantage on defense. 

 

Brandon Bass continues to impress, seemingly making mid-range jumpers in his sleep, and playing effectively within 3-out/2-in offensive sets here and there alongside Howard. Bass didn't play much (roughly 18 minutes), but one has to like a stat-line that reads 13 points (5-6 FG) and 9 rebounds. That's exactly the type of production general manager Otis Smith envisioned when he signed Bass in free agency during the off-season.

 

But back to Williams, because there's no doubt he will be Nelson's back-up on opening night against the Philadelphia 76ers - he played as well as one would expect him coming off the bench. In the second quarter, Wiliams hooked up Mickael Pietrus for a fast-break bucket, hit another three in classic White Chocolate fashion (coming down the court, launching a quick shot), and made a behind-the-back pass to Marcin Gortat, who proceeded to nail a free-throw line jumper. No offense to Anthony Johnson, a player that performed admirably this past season, but there's no way he brings that type of playmaking ability for the Magic.

 

In the same quarter, Vince Carter went to work - driving to the basket multiple times and running the 2/5 pick & roll with Gortat and Howard at different moments. Even though Carter didn't convert on his field goal attempts during that timeframe, he did make up for it by making all his free throws when he did get to the line. One should be encouraged that he's being more aggressive the basket and not settling for three-pointers, as he did early in the pre-season.

 

Early in the third quarter, Howard was much more involved on both ends of the floor. One has to feel for Hibbert because he was simply outclassed against Howard head-to-head; he was blocked on and he was scored on. It happens. As for Carter, he played noticeably well in the same quarter. Carter nailed a three off a 4-out/1-in offensive set, executed a nice drive and kick to set up Barnes for an easy jumper, continued to attack the rim, made a pretty pass to Nelson who made an easy layup, mixed in a runner for good measure, and probably the most important thing, played hard on defense against Danny Granger. Throughout the game, Carter exhibited the effort and intensity Van Gundy has been desiring from all his players. There's no doubt that when Carter puts his mind to it, he's a net positive for Orlando on the defensive end. Without question.

 

What else is there to say? Let's be frank, the Magic are stacked. This was blatantly obvious against Indiana, especially when the second unit came into the game for Orlando, because there were a number of starting-quality players coming off the bench throughout the evening - Anderson, Bass, Gortat, etc. When the starters left the game in the fourth quarter, the reserves didn't miss a beat. Four players didn't start, yet scored in double-figures. The depth on the Magic is remarkable and don't be surprised if the shear mass of talent simply overwhelms some opponents during the regular season. 

 

Orlando has one more game in the pre-season against the Atlanta Hawks, a divisional rival, on Friday. The game is on ESPN so if you haven't been able to see the new-look Magic, you'll have your chance to do so in two days.

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I knew it all along...

J-Will’s the man… the team was +17 with him on the floor and he had 5 dimes with… ZERO turnovers. The year off let him give his knees the rest it needed.

by whoisthedrizzle on Oct 22, 2009 3:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I said this TOO many times in the off-season

But NOOOOO!! Some people STILL wanted to say that it’s a “toss-up” between J-Will and A.J.
White Chocolate???? GET OUTTA HEH!!

by pianolady on Oct 22, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

by derekk on Oct 22, 2009 11:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Well, let's be fair, no one knew how Williams would come back after a year off.

Clearly he looks fine so the comparison looks a little ridiculous now, but not then.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 22, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's true but

Even if he didn’t take a year off, I’d still pick him. I know his stats weren’t that great in his last full season, but that stats didn’t tell the whole story. If you actually saw the games, and Pat Riley’s “coaching” that year, the offense was pretty much give D-Wade the ball. So, as a point gaurd, J-Will was relegated to just standing around the 3-point line while D-Wade drives the lane and eaither 1) makes the shot, 2) gets fouled, or 3) turns the ball over (D-Wade had so many turnovers that year it was ridiculous, yet J-Will hasn’t averaged more than 2 turnovers per game for years now, and STILL gets a bad rap as a turnover machine). That leads to 2 problems; 1) you’re not allowing J-Will, the point guard, to set up his teammates for easy buckets, 2) you’re making D-Wade work way too hard as he was already playing hurt as it was, and 3) You’re trying to make J-Will do what he’s not good at. He’s not Jason Kapono; he’s not a spot up shooter (in case you couldn’t tell). He likes to shoot pullups on the run. So, yeah, his last season was not a good season in terms of team success and stats. But if you never watched the miami games (and as bad as they were, I wouldn’t blame you), you couldn’t know that, and would assume based on stats that, he’s not very effective. But the reality is, he can be very effective if you just let him do his thing and with the weapons this team has, it’s gonna be awesome. Even playing with the “B” team, it’s gonna be dunks for Gortat and open jumpers for Redick and Pietrus all day. Even if he is a liability on defense, what he brings to the table on offense far outweighs anything he gives up on D. Because AJ is not that much better on D, and gives you no offense.

by whoisthedrizzle on Oct 22, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Johnson is a better defender, but Williams is a better player.

I’ve seen enough of J-Will in my life to know what his game entails.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 22, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

over-under on Dwight's FT shooting improving?

How much longer do we have to wait for Dwight’s FT% to improve? 6-16?! 37.5%?! How many of those came after the eye poke? Great job getting to the line. Needs to sink a few more.

Would we ever see Marcin pulling duty in late game situations if this continues? Gortat shot 5-6 from the line.

by magicfaninTN on Oct 22, 2009 7:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that had a little something to do with it.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 22, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dwight has worked on FTs the most of anything this summer so there’s clearly some mental blocks involved. He has good form. He’s too good a FT shooter in non-game situations to continue it forever before finall hitting them or changing his mentality.

by derekk on Oct 22, 2009 11:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

don't get me wrong

I’d be ecstatic if it showed up during the playoffs. That’d be good enough. :-)

Thanks jackhammerslam for the first hand report.

by magicfaninTN on Oct 22, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, I don't think they'll ever improve to what everyone wants (70%).

I just don’t see it. We’ve been all talking about Howard’s FT shooting for years and nothing’s changed.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 22, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd put the over under at 60% which is about what he shot last year.

I just don’t see anything that makes me think he’s improved all that much. And I don’t even care. He’s that good otherwise.

by CaliFlorida on Oct 22, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been telling everyone all preseason.

Its not the fact it’s preseason and they are winning…its the way they are winning. In pretty much all of the games, they have won every statistical category. Some games they have blown out teams in multiple categories. And to boot, they’re doing it while using multiple rotations made up sometimes of completely bench players. Last night they were able to win in the manner they did (given the Pacers are probably one of the worst teams in the league) with JJ playing 22 minutes. This is no joke. Its too bad they dont have their full roster for the first 10 games…but the way they are playing they’ll be just fine. I can’t say it enough, they are good and they are on a mission. It’s gonna be so exciting once the season starts cause mad peeps are going to be like “what the fuck, these guys got better!?!?” Lol.

Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.

by KingJafi on Oct 22, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pretty Much!

They are moving like poetry on motion! And that says something, I don’t care if it IS pre-season. The Magic are gonna start the season in mid-season form and alot of the other playoff caliber teams are gonna just be getting started because they’ve been nursing one or more of their main guys. That alone gives us the edge in the first 10 games. Our team is motivated to come out hot, everyone else is talking about “It’s 82 games.” As far as we’re concerned, it’s 10!! If we had Rashard, I would bet we would start 10-0, NO CONTEST!

by pianolady on Oct 22, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

vs boston

it will be interesting to see the match up vs. boston. They’ve looked pretty good in preseason, too. And, they’re also on a mission.

Cleveland I’m still not so sure about. Hard to tell if they’re just in preseason cruise or if they’ve really got some wrinkles to iron out.

by magicfaninTN on Oct 22, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boston and Cleveland will be ready to play when the time comes, rest assured.

Like I said, it’s a marathon, not a sprint.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 22, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's the thing that's stood out to me the most.

It’s the manner by which the Magic are winning in the pre-season.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 22, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Btw

Ben or E, is it possible (once the preseason is over) to get a final tally on how many team statistical categories they won and how many they lost combined throughout the preseason. I’m pretty sure everyone will be blown away.

Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.

by KingJafi on Oct 22, 2009 9:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you could fanpost it yourself

not being a dick, just saying, that’s how we build community

by fwedo on Oct 22, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally would if I had time. Maybe I can get to it this weekend….

Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.

by KingJafi on Oct 22, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can try.

I’ll see if I can get to that this weekend. If you beat me to it Jafi, that’s fine.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 22, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Things are indeed looking good for the Magic thus far

Hopefully we set fire to the league in the regular season, but without depleting ourselves for the playoffs. Our best year was the year after we first made the NBA Finals, 1995-96, but we got swept by the Bulls in the conference finals.

Me babe, steppin' out
Into the night, into the light

by Orlando Rays on Oct 22, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Orlando will be fine in terms of energy and what not.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 22, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We look good, REAL good

Dwight’s free throws are a big disappointment so far though. I hope he gets them on track. I know he said he worked hard on them this summer.

by aakks on Oct 22, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Judging on his tweets...I don't know how hard he really worked this summer.

The guy had so many commitments for the NBA and Adidas…as well as this movie career thing he decided to start that I don’t know how much time he was in the basketball gym. One thing’s for sure, he was working out in the weight room a lot…and at random hours. So if anything, he should be much stronger and ready to take on Shaq’s old ass.

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by KingJafi on Oct 22, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He took 2 trainers with him everywhere he went this summer

So despite all the extracurricular activities, I don’t think we have to worry about him being in basketball shape.

Honestly, I don’t think his free-throw shooting will get that much better. He said himself, “You’re gonna have good days and bad days.” That sounds like 50% shooting to me. But I’m sure he can keep it consistently around 65%.

by bandrewg08 on Oct 22, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Dwight can get around 60%-65%, I just don't know about 70% consistently.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 22, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just responding to what he said

His goal this summer was to improve his free throws.

by aakks on Oct 22, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And my goal this year was too get engaged...

Sometimes, it takes longer than you planned for…Geesh

by pianolady on Oct 22, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

re: engagement

well, do you have two trainers that travel everywhere with you to help with that? just sayin’ ;>)

by magicfaninTN on Oct 22, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And what part of my comment doesn't recognize that?

Dwight’s free throws are a big disappointment [b]so far[/b] though. [b]I hope he gets them on track.[/b] I know he said he worked hard on them this summer.

Geesh yourself…

by aakks on Oct 22, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Relax.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 22, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trust me, Dwight was working on his game as much as he could during the summer.

Just because he had a lot of commitments doesn’t mean that Howard didn’t work hard.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 22, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 22, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good detailed write up as usual.

But can we stop referring to the offense with Bass in the game as 3 out 2 in. Bass usually gets the ball 15-17 feet from the basket and either takes his man off the dribble or swishes jumpers. He rarely sets up inside.

by CaliFlorida on Oct 22, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's true, but there were several instances where the Magic ran 3-out/2-in sets to post Brandon up.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Oct 22, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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