Orlando Magic News for October 20th: Sporting News Previews the Orlando Magic; Thumbs Up on Chemistry
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NBA Countdown: No. 8 Orlando Magic
Tim Povtak previews the Orlando Magic on behalf of Sporting News.View from the other bench
Then why does Vince Carter have a higher assist percentage than Hedo Turkoglu this past season (and a lower turnover percentage, to boot)?
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"For a team that went to the Finals, these were not small changes they made. If they don't get back there, or if the team has a drop-off in the regular season, there is certain going to be some second-guessing. Getting Vince Carter certainly is no drop-off from letting Hedo Turkoglu leave, but they are different, really different players, different in what they do best. Vince is capable of creating something when there is nothing out there. But Turkoglu was a much more willing passer, and a lot of times he created for his teammates." -
The 5 Obstacles To The Orlando Magic’s Championship Run
Gerald Narciso of Dime Magazine takes a look at the five obstacles in the way of a championship run for Orlando. Here's one of them:A lot has been made about Dwight Howard’s one dimensional game. His lack of post moves and inability to make free throws makes him a liability come crunch time. He insisted that he worked on both those areas over the summer, but so far in the preseason, he has been inconsistent from the line. Superman is destined for another monster season and deserves MVP consideration, but if you’re a franchise player and can’t be a factor in the game’s final minutes, than you can’t win championships.
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Game Notes: Magic at Bulls
Bryan Crawford of SLAM ONLINE shares his observations of last night's game between the Orlando Magic & the Chicago Bulls. An excerpt from his write-up:From what I saw last night on the make-up of the Orlando Magic and the camaraderie they all seemed to share in the locker room after the game as they gorged themselves on a buffet of barbecued ribs and watched Monday Night Football together, you can almost certainly expect the Orlando Van Gundy’s to make another deep run into the playoffs, possibly repeating as Eastern Conference champions and making it to the NBA Finals again. Especially with the addition of Vince Carter and a healthy Jameer Nelson. There’s something to be said for a team that gets along and who genuinely like each other. This year’s Magic team certainly seems to have that going for them.
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Orlando Magic turnovers, defensive lapses irk Stan Van Gundy
Tania Ganguli notes how head coach Stan Van Gundy was not pleased with the game, yesterday. As expected, defense and turnovers were the issues.The Magic committed 12 turnovers in the first half of their 101-98 win over the Chicago Bulls. They had 18 by the end of the game. So... at least it got better?
But that didn't stop Stan Van Gundy from replying with a, "No, not even close. Awful." When asked if he was pretty pleased with his team's performance. (It wasn't me, I promise) -
The Baseline Sees All: Orlando Magic
UPDATE: Bethlehem Shoals of The Baseline eloquently questions why so many people are questioning that the Magic are still for real.What am I missing here? Is Vince Carter still so loathed or resented that he must taint any team he comes to? Is everyone still worried about their offense, specifically Howard's role in it, when they'll have their second-best player back healthy and have added an elite scorer? This team should win a championship and it's absurd that anyone's lukewarm or less than bullish about them. We should be falling at their feet and wondering how even the Lakers can match their depth.
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Lets Not Forget About Keyon
UPDATE 2: Sebastian Pruiti of NetsAreScorching takes a look at a former Orlando point guard, Keyon Dooling, and tries to decipher which position is best for him with New Jersey. -
Sources: NBA, referees getting closer to agreement
UPDATE 3: It appears that replacement refs are no more.The NBA's locked out referees appear to be inching close to a return to work after an unexpected meeting Tuesday in New York between commissioner David Stern and Lamell McMorris of the referees' union, ESPN.com has learned.
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NBA Preview: Orlando Magic expert predictions
UPDATE 4: ESPN.com writers offer their respective predictions on how the Orlando Magic will fare in the 2009-2010 season. Check it out.
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E's witty retorts for the Center Square!!!
8th? SERIOUSLY? ugh.
by fwedo on Oct 20, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm starting to get annoyed with the predictions, if you can't already tell.
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by erivera7 on Oct 20, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still can't believe the Sporting News rank Orlando as #8 in the league
I don’t mind when most writers ranking Orlando as #4 and can even understand it (although I disagree with it, but then again, I’m a huge Orlando homer). Ranking them as 8th though is pretty preposterous by most standards.
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by funny80sguy on Oct 20, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm just confused as to how there are 7 better teams, when the Magic were the second-to-last team standing last year, had arguably the best summer of any team in the league.
Third Quarter Collapse: An Orlando Magic blog at SB Nation | Brandon Bass: "I just play hard."
by Ben Q Rock on Oct 20, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
I have no qualms having the Cavaliers, Celtics, and Lakers ahead of the Magic. Two of those teams have won titles in recent years and the Cavaliers have been to the Finals themselves, so all of them have championship pedigrees of some sort. However, to rank Orlando 8th? Behind Washington?
What the ****!
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by erivera7 on Oct 20, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was Povtak fired from the Sentinel or something?
Cause he must still be feeling salty.
by bandrewg08 on Oct 20, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure he was laid off, but I don't know 100%.
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by erivera7 on Oct 20, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol 8th come on man.
mabey he was smoking crack as he wrote this. can i say smoking crack on here?
by magicman775 on Oct 20, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I try not to let it bother me
But I’m getting a little tired of all the sports writers/bloggers counting us out. That’s why I can’t wait till the season starts. We will be too busy winning games to even bother with the naysayers.
by bluedlu on Oct 20, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Like I've said before, it's better that way.
Dwight, Jameer, Rashard, they all use it as motivation.
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by erivera7 on Oct 20, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
V.C. Is a real ball stopper ha ha, I think the only thing I’m gonna miss about Turk is his inbounding. Funny how all the big trades and free agent moves that were made and VC is the one who has nothin left, I mean Sheed barley made it through last year, Swaqk didn’t play in back 2 backs and if there was a player from the big 3 in NJ that is frail & soft it’s RJ but I still like that move for SA that team is gonna be scary if they can stay healthy.the only thing that scares me is bad refs and our HORRID freethrow shooting, the only good defensive player we lost was C Lee and 2 guards lit us up last year. I like being the underdog it just means we get the " I told you so idiots" victory at the end of the season. That was one of the sweetest things last year, we may not have won the trophy but our team was playin the last game of the season while everyone else was sitting at home, their bad for mistaken our “poodle” smiles for our pittbull nature
I know what Bo dont know.
by D-RAK on Oct 20, 2009 3:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
whoa, no need to talk down what we lost
We gave big to get big, I will remember Lee not for his missed Final’s layup, but for my favorite playoff line “When House left for the game, Lee was outside his house waiting for him” in reference to Lee’s defensive smothering on Eddie House of the Celtics. Hedo, for all his quirks, gave us a great valued player and got overpaid to make up for it, but he saved us when Jameer went down. He played PG and hit a lot of big shots for us, especially in the fourth quarter. I am happy with the moves we made, but not at the expense of what we gave up. Hedo, Lee, and Alston really came thru for us last year and I say kudos and good luck to them all.
by Eric9321 on Oct 20, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be frank, the only player of significance the Magic gave up was Courtney Lee.
Otis Smith voluntarily let Hedo Turkoglu walk. That being said, sure, Turkoglu, Lee, and Alston deserve to be applauded for what they did with Orlando this past season. I hope that when they come into town, the fans give them an ovation because it’s warranted, but it’s time to move on. The Magic are better, faster, stronger than ever before and it’s time that “experts” realize that.
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by erivera7 on Oct 20, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
man ive been waiting for shoals writeup for weeks now
love shoals or hate him, the guy is legit. and as for sporting news giving us #8, who cares? sean deveny honestly believes turk was the straw that stirred the drink. once the season plays out and we’re more than likely back in the finals, they’ll find other reasons to doubt. the national media amazes me.
by Snyde on Oct 20, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He knows his stuff, which can't be said for other writers out there.
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by erivera7 on Oct 20, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not only does he know his stuff
but is also a good writer in general which is pretty refreshing
Nah' mean, nah'm sayin
by Dr Things on Oct 20, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no respect has its bright side
no respect by media and sheep like public usually means betting lines that are very advantageous to betting with the magic, cant wait to play out the lines
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by pieful35 on Oct 20, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL, nice.
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by erivera7 on Oct 20, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love the Bethlehem Shoals quote tho
“This team should win a championship and it’s absurd that anyone’s lukewarm or less than bullish about them. We should be falling at their feet and wondering how even the Lakers can match their depth.” that made my day
by magictitansfan on Oct 20, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stealthily...
OK guys and gals, have you had about enough of the rankings, projections, etc? Povtak (A former Orlando Sentinel guy) doesn’t want anyone to think he’s a homer for his old team, the Magic. He says we can’t sneak up on anyone and then he ranks us eighth…hmmm. Seems to me we can still be stealthy. As for the way we will play: in football and baseball the defense or pitching has the advantage early-then the offense comes around. In basketball it’s the other way around. Perhaps our offense can carry us till December and then our D will gel. Both barrels loaded…
As for all our fans-just keep it under our hat, a few yes sirs and yes ma’ams. I intend to let the results speak for themselves. Ain’t nothing finer, NO THING better, then hearing a bunch of jeering and dissing, and walking off the court with a W. I remember E. Holyfield seemed to be the underdog every time he stepped into the ring, too small, no power, no chin…Tyson-who talked (or his fans did at least), had to try and bite his ear off cause he couldn’t beat him within the rules.
Admiral Yamamoto told Japan before WWII "Let the sleeping giant lay." Roosevelt, "Walk softly and carry a big stick."
Let them talk. The juice of a championship will be all the more sweeter. A maelstrom come June. "How the hell did they…?"
"He who laughs last laughs louder." Get ready to roll in the streets come next June.
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by mike in munich on Oct 20, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I too think 8th is a farce and a mockery of B-Ball justice . . .
Or a Fockery if you’ll pardon my Ben Wallace ;)
Seriously though, I was fit to be tied until I read that Shoals piece which spoke the TRUTH about our team plain and simple.
It’s absolutely a MUST READ if you haven’t done so already as it will definitely help wash away the sour taste of that 8th place insult.
Also, I recommended taking a minute to leave a comment on Mr. Shoals piece thanking him for having the cahoots to speak the truth in spite of “popular opinion.” I did and feel SOOO much better now! :)
Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!
by blue-blood on Oct 20, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just wasted another hour of my life writing about the stupid Carter/Turkoglu "debate,"* the result of which you can read tomorrow morning at 8 AM
*How is it even a debate? One’s a possible Hall-of-Famer, the other’s been a borderline All-Star once in 9 seasons…
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by Ben Q Rock on Oct 20, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a debate because people too much stock in playoff success (see Jerome James).
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by erivera7 on Oct 20, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh . . . Jerome James
I remember we were all cracking up in Seattle when Isiah Thomas gave Jerome that big contract after he managed to dominate a one legged Brad Miller during the playoffs. Isiah must not have realized that the Kings were only playing Peg-Leg Brad during that series because they figured it didn’t really matter since it was only Jerome James he would be guarding after all.
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by funny80sguy on Oct 20, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'll yell at skeets to put it on BDL
by yell i mean all caps. i love me some all caps.
by fwedo on Oct 20, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear you:
Got in words with a coworker (big Hedo fan—and in case you all don’t recall, so am I) about how I was “hating” on Hedo because I was now supporting VC. Finally all I could say was liking someone doesn’t make them more talented than Vince Carter.
by Stan in a Van (Down by the River) on Oct 20, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice rebuttal.
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by erivera7 on Oct 20, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont know how it even gets discused. carter or hedo
do you even have to think about it.
by magicman775 on Oct 20, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you look at the numbers, as of right now he has a 90% chance of getting in.
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by ben_gleicher on Oct 20, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know the regular refs should be better for the league than the replacements, but I was actually looking forward to not seeing a regular season game being officiated by the likes of Violet Palmer.
sigh
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!!
by malars on Oct 20, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did we officially sign Morris Almond? The bottom of Potvak's article mentions roster additions/subtractions and lists Almond as an addition, but not Linton Johnson.
Curious…
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!!
by malars on Oct 20, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think that might be an oversight. The team hasn't released an announcement on either player yet, and SVG said he'd give both players until the end of the preseason before making a decision.
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by Ben Q Rock on Oct 21, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be surprised if either made the roster, to be honest.
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by erivera7 on Oct 21, 2009 4:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, these experts over at Sporting News have the Raptors ranked 11th in the league, ahead of the Hawks, Jazz, Suns, Heat, and Sixers.
Hmmm…
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!!
by malars on Oct 20, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Toronto's off-season was overrated.
The Raptors will be lucky to make the playoffs.
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by erivera7 on Oct 21, 2009 4:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Undefeated in Preseason, still little respect.
Thank god for writers like B Shoals who use some rational thinking when summarizing the Magic. And several ESPN writers got it right in their ranking. Too bad J Hill is still the same ill-informed writer as before when her anti-Magic view was plainly evident in her articles for the Sentinel. I will hear her, Boussaird and AJ Adonde all crying how the Magic aren’t good enough to win all season long. Right up to us having a parade down Orange Ave.
Thats me chilling with Nick Anderson
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