Tonight's Game: Orlando Magic at Los Angeles Clippers
Orlando Magic at Los Angeles Clippers, Dec 8, 2008 10:30 PM EST
UPDATE: J.J. Redick is out of the starting lineup, according to Brian Schmitz. Magic coach Stan Van Gundy did not say much about his reasoning:
"I'm not going to get into the details (about the change)," Van Gundy said."I thought it was the best thing going forward at least for this trip. It gives us the best matchups."
[....]
Asked what this means for Redick, Van Gundy said, "I don't know. We'll see what happens. His role has changed a little, but we'll see how he plays."
It does not sound good for J.J., does it?
| 2008/2009 NBA Regular Season | ||
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| 15-5 | 4-16 | |
| December 8th, 2008 | ||
| STAPLES Center | ||
| 10:30 PM | ||
| Sun Sports | ||
| Probable starters: | ||
| Jameer Nelson | PG | Baron Davis |
| Keith Bogans | SG | Eric Gordon |
| Hedo Turkoglu | SF | Al Thornton |
| Rashard Lewis | PF | Zach Randolph |
| Dwight Howard | C | Marcus Camby |
The Orlando Magic open their five-game, West-Coast road trip at STAPLES Center against the disappointing Los Angeles Clippers. On paper, it's their easiest game; the Clippers have the worst record, by far, of any team the Magic will play. On the court, though, it may be a different story.
Perhaps no single player has tormented the Magic over the last several seasons than Baron Davis, who left the Golden State Warriors to sign a lucrative deal with the Clippers this summer. Davis' size and strength, not to mention his considerable skill, make him a tough matchup for any team, but especially the Magic. Jameer Nelson gives up 3 inches and 25 pounds1 to Davis, according to the players' listed heights. The result hasn't been pretty. In six career head-to-head matchups, Davis bests Nelson in darn near every statistical category: points (26 to 12.3), rebounds (4 to 2.3), assists (7.2 to 5) steals (2.5 to 1.5) and blocks (1.2) while shooting better from the field and from the foul line. Then again, Nelson owns the better won/lost record. Ideally, the Magic would put shooting guard--and former Davis teammate--Mickael Pietrus on Davis and cross-match Nelson with Eric Gordon; unfortunately, Pietrus will miss several more weeks with a thumb injury on his right (shooting) hand. So there goes that idea.
1: And maybe more. According to the NY Daily News, Davis reportedly packed on a bunch of weight so he could then lose it with a special weight-loss shake... for a $250,000 endorsement deal. (HT: Red's Army)
Still, Orlando should be heavily favored. The Clippers are loathe to defend--really, they gave up 20 uncontested shots to the Memphis Grizzlies in a recent game--and their head-scratching acquisition of notorious non-defender Zach Randolph last month did little to change that. Marcus Camby, shifting from power forward to center in Chris Kaman's injury absence, is only one season removed from winning the Defensive Player of the Year award, but he's no match for Dwight Howard, who will try to celebrate his 23rd birthday in style by leading the Magic to victory. Camby blocks shots by rotating to the strong side to cut off penetration, not by matching up with his own man. As a result, Magic guards should look to shovel-pass to Dwight on their drives when Camby is in the game. Once he rotates, Dwight will be wiiiiiiide the heck open--and I don't expect any Clipper will rotate to Dwight to cover for Camby. This paragraph is just a long-winded way of saying Dwight Howard will probably go off tonight, provided his teammates look for him.
If you want to see the game, you may want to set your DVR and watch it over breakfast tomorrow morning. It doesn't start until 10:30, although it's on Sun Sports, which means everyone in Orlando should be able to tune-in. Go Magic.
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I'm watching on direct tv league pass
but check out channelsurfing.net they usually have all the games.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 8, 2008 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Another three by Bogans!
Magic 14, Clippers 2. Clips have one basket in over 5 minutes.
Am I the only one here again :(
Haha Dwight misses a dunk, sends the ball careening into the air
wows the crowd. He will go to the line.
No Neck seems to be having trouble keeping up with the Clips' rookie
Which is expected, since Johnson is about 50 years old…
Anyone else think
that Dwight shows up his teammates too much? This is the third or fourth time this season, I’ve seen him “look” or yell at his teammates regarding their play. That needs to stay in the locker room, he certainly shouldn’t be doing it on the court during the game.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 8, 2008 11:15 PM EST reply actions
it's certainly obvious when he's pissed
but he’s the team captain, and if something isn’t getting done, he does have the responsibility to do something
by TheGiantSquid on Dec 8, 2008 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
I agree 100%
but, Courtney Lee jumping for a loose ball rebound when Dwight was a good five feet away doesn’t deserve “the look.” Courtney was playing hard fighting for the ball, ehhh…. whatever
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 8, 2008 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, I know
I think Dwight has a possessiveness regarding his rebounds. It is immature, definitely something he should work on, but for now, I agree with magic fanatic—better than goofing off.
by TheGiantSquid on Dec 8, 2008 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
The clips sideline reporter
just asked Chris Kaman, “how does it feel watching Dwight Howard from the sideline, knowing you could be out there shutting him down?”
Is that a serious question?
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 8, 2008 11:18 PM EST reply actions
in Los Angeles, apparently
in the real world, however…
by TheGiantSquid on Dec 8, 2008 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
lol
I wish Kaman answered with, “is that a serious question?”
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 8, 2008 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Can we trade for Atkins any quicker?
No neck needs to go, hopefully Denver will take him as a throw in.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 8, 2008 11:21 PM EST reply actions
This is crazy
This game should have been put away in the first ten minutes. Why does this happen to us EVERY time we have the opportunity?
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 8, 2008 11:31 PM EST reply actions
Anyone watching the LAC feed?
1) The announcers are actually very good. Very impartial, unlike many of the opponents we’ve faced this season, I like them. Despite the fact that after Baron’s first three pointer one guy screamed, “THANK YOU Baron Davis!” I’ll let that pass.
2) They have a really cool baseline/floor camera, with AWESOME views that I haven’t seen any other teams use this season. Looks really nice on the 90" HD projector.
3) We can’t rebound without Dwight on the floor.
4) Baron is filthy.
5) We’re losing at halftime?
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 8, 2008 11:39 PM EST reply actions
Clips fan here
watching the rerun on FoxSports…RE #1…That’s what we call around ClipsNation.com MILPH…Mike Smith and Ralph Lawler (2nd best NBA announcer ever!) Ralph will someday be in the NBA Hall of fame…we almost snatched this game, but MDsr once again allows the team to crumble…
"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men
Ugly halftime stats for the Magic
Now that the football game is over, I was hoping to see that the Magic had a big halftime lead against the Clippers; well, I was wrong there. The Magic are shooting 38.5% from the floor, and 15.4% from three point range. They are also being outrebounded 30-18.
Things had better turn around in the second half for the Magic!
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 8, 2008 11:52 PM EST reply actions
yeah it's been....bad
we were doing great until Dwight had to go out briefly with a bloody lip, then the Clips went on a run, regained their confidence, the Magic began sucking, and here we are. :(
by TheGiantSquid on Dec 8, 2008 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
Another rough shooting game for Turk and Lewis
,,, they are a combined 3 of 14 for 9 points.
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 8, 2008 11:54 PM EST reply actions
The Clippers aren't exactly setting the world on fire either
They’re shooting only 40.4% from the field and 66.7% on free throws.
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 8, 2008 11:57 PM EST reply actions
lol yeah but they're still beating us
Let’s hope Dwight and Co. go nuclear in the second half :/
by TheGiantSquid on Dec 9, 2008 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
The Magic bench is struggling
Battie has a plus/minus of -21 and Courtney Lee a plus/minus of -16. That is simply unacceptable.
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 8, 2008 11:59 PM EST reply actions
So far Jameer is our most consistent player this game
He has 13 points, 2 assists, is 6-8 from the field, 2 steals, and unfortunately, 3 TOs.
Nice start for the second half
Magic on a 13-6 run to take back the lead.
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 9, 2008 12:01 AM EST reply actions
Yeah...
if it wasn’t for Nelson, the Magic would be shooting just 14 of 37 from the field.
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 9, 2008 12:03 AM EST reply actions
Clippers on a 9-1 run
… and have a 7 point lead.
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 9, 2008 12:05 AM EST reply actions
I know it's late, especially in FL, but...
there’s still time to pull this one out for the Magic.
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 9, 2008 12:07 AM EST reply actions
I'm honestly stunned
from what I saw in the first quarter—the poor ball handling, the turnovers, the complete lack of scoring—I was sure the Magic would win this. If we can’t win against this Clippers…
Maybe it's just me
but the Clippers seem to be playing with much more energy. The Magic just don’t seem to be showing any hustle tonight.
We are getting owned on the glass.
Howard can’t do it all by himself. Games like this make me think we need to add another rebounder.
Good point about the lack of energy by the Magic
… being outrebounded 39-24 by the Clippers, and as TGS mentioned, just 1 offensive board.
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 9, 2008 12:12 AM EST reply actions
I was hoping this game would be a nice distraction from my grad school stuff, but nooooo
stupid Magic *kicks pebbles *
I don't know what it is....
Can they just not get up to play a supposedly inferior opponent? Has the shortened rotation left guys tired? Whatever it is, getting out hustled by the Clip… not good.
I'm surprised SVG hasn't played Redick at least a little this game
… Redick shot 3 of 5 the last game and seemed to be getting his shooting eye back.
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 9, 2008 12:15 AM EST reply actions
Blame Courtney Lee?
I assume there is only room for one of them in SVG’s rotation.
Getting outscored in the second quarter 29-16 really hurt
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 9, 2008 12:16 AM EST reply actions
whaaaaaaaaaaat?
I stopped watching, it was making me too depressed. What is Stan thinking?
by TheGiantSquid on Dec 9, 2008 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
Magic 2 out of 7 from the free throw line this quarter
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 9, 2008 12:19 AM EST reply actions
Davis is dominating
… 23 points and 6 assists after three.
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 9, 2008 12:22 AM EST reply actions
Orlando is missing Pietrus right about now, I'd say.
I imagine he’d be doing a better job defending Davis than the Lee/Nelson combo.
I'm a girl
and yes, I know, but come on! The Clippers! :(((
by TheGiantSquid on Dec 9, 2008 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
lol... I kind of thought so
it was my indirect way of finding out without asking ;)
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 9, 2008 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
The Magic are actually outshooting the Clippers
…42.9% to 42.1%. Magic are being outrebounded 40-28 and have 12 turnovers to the Clippers’ 9.
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 9, 2008 12:25 AM EST reply actions
Who would be better matched up on Davis right now?
Nelson or Lee?
Probably neither
… but I would go with Nelson the veteran.
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 9, 2008 12:27 AM EST reply actions
There we go!
Getting worried yet?
How many times will the Clips announcers say that?
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 9, 2008 12:28 AM EST reply actions
Yes, Lee has done much better the second half
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 9, 2008 12:29 AM EST reply actions
I'm starting to not like these Clips announcers anymore
maybe because the game is coming down the stretch, but I’m sick and tired of them talking about the Magic’s season.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 9, 2008 12:31 AM EST reply actions
what are they saying?
the Magic haven’t won against a team with a winning record yet? Same ol’, same ol’.
by TheGiantSquid on Dec 9, 2008 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
Why is he even in the game right now?
Enough with the experiment get him off of this team!
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 9, 2008 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
Looks like Johnson will get a mention for Worst of the Night on Basketbawful
0 points, 1 rebound, 0-1 from the field
Dwight...
“make them when they count” huh?
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 9, 2008 12:34 AM EST reply actions
What did Randolph do?
I know he got a flagrant but I’m following the game on Yahoo.
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 9, 2008 12:38 AM EST reply actions
Definitely a Flagrant 2
No play at the ball whatsoever
What the hell was Zach doing putting his back against Howard's?
Zach and Brian Cook having lots of words.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 9, 2008 12:38 AM EST reply actions
Which seems odd
considering that Orlando is the 3pt shooting team. Dunleavy was talking at the half about wanting his team to attack. Guess they aren’t doing it so well.
Man Dwight Howard is getting banged around today.
That cut is bleeding again in his mouth.
At least our boys have gotten it together in the 4th here!
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 9, 2008 12:41 AM EST reply actions
Shocking how the game has turned so dramatically in the Magic's favor
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 9, 2008 12:42 AM EST reply actions
Can anyone believe Dwight only averaged 12-10 in 04-05?
Lol…
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 9, 2008 12:43 AM EST reply actions
aww, he was just a baby then
if by baby I mean a man-child
by TheGiantSquid on Dec 9, 2008 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
The Clippers are really losing their composure
Davis with a T.
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 9, 2008 12:43 AM EST reply actions
Flagrant?
Disagree with that. Cook made a play on the ball, unlike Randolph earlier.
he's been cold the past few games
but he’s made money shots all year.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 9, 2008 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
I wish he'd be warm
…you know what I mean
by TheGiantSquid on Dec 9, 2008 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
Cook wasn't even trying to foul Baron, he was reaching for a loose ball... absurd flagrant foul.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 9, 2008 12:50 AM EST reply actions
and then Baron tried to go after Cook
I don’t understand the logic.
by TheGiantSquid on Dec 9, 2008 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
Agree.
Watching the replay, do you think that Davis reacted the way he did in an attempt to sell it as a flagrant?
TURK!
I was just yelling at him for shooting too quickly on that possession, but I’ll take it!
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 9, 2008 12:51 AM EST reply actions
yes like petting him on the head SHUT UP
by TheGiantSquid on Dec 9, 2008 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
lol.. I wasn't trying to be an a--
just wasn’t sure what you meant…
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 9, 2008 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
Did Turk only get credit for a 2? Thought we were up 9.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 9, 2008 12:52 AM EST reply actions
good good stuff...
make your free throws guys. simple is.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 9, 2008 12:55 AM EST reply actions
Looks like my bet should hold, Magic -3
$200 richer. Yessur! Scary for a minute there.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 9, 2008 12:56 AM EST reply actions
Damn Baron didn't want to let Brian apologize.
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Dec 9, 2008 12:57 AM EST reply actions
If only Howard could have pulled down one more board...
He could have celebrated with 23 and 23.
Not an encouraging win.
But a win nonetheless.
A win is a win!
Portland later on tonight in what will be a tough game for the Magic.
You all have a good rest of the night.
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 9, 2008 1:04 AM EST reply actions

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