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Tonight's Game: Philadelphia 76ers at Orlando Magic

Philadelphia 76ers at Orlando Magic, Nov 6, 2008 8:00 PM EST


2008/2009 NBA Regular Season
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Orlando Magic 20th anniversary logo
2-32-2
November 6th, 2008
Amway Arena
8:00 PM
TNT
Probable starters:
Andre Miller PG Jameer Nelson
Andre Iguodala SG Mickael Pietrus
Thaddeus Young SF Hedo Turkoglu
Elton Brand PF Rashard Lewis
Samuel Dalembert C Dwight Howard

UPDATE: Yahoo! Sports' Kelly Dwyer has anointed this game tonight's "Game to pay attention to." Meanwhile, Liberty Ballers picks the Magic to win, 146-75. Losing to the Heat will do that to a fan, I suppose.

The Orlando Magic will face the thoughest test of their young season tonight when they play the Philadelhpia 76ers, a team that came on strong during the second half of last season and scored the biggest free-agent addition this summer with the signing of Elton Brand. So far, the 76ers have underperformed. They dropped a 106-83 decision last night in South Beach, shooting 41.0% (eFG) and committing 25 turnovers in a 96-possession game; perhaps they're struggling to integrate Brand into their offense. However, they aren't going to shoot so poorly over the course of an entire season, and they'll be especially hungry for a win tonight after last night's embarrassment.

The Magic know as much, just as they know they aren't playing to the best of their ability. Brian Schmitz thinks it's pressure of living up to early-season expectations that's hurting them. Whatever it is, they need to get over it tonight. A national TV audience will be watching for them for the first time since the Detroit Pistons eliminated them from the Playoffs in May. The defining play of that game was Tayshaun Prince's incredible block of Hedo Turkoglu's driving dunk attempt in the final minute. One could make the pop-psychological argument that Turk hasn't played the same since that moment. He's scoring 15.5 points per game this year, down from 19.5 last season, his shooing is down 10 percentage points, and his three-point shooting is down 13 points. He also shot poorly in international competition this summer, although his playmaking and leadership were superb as usual. Understandably, the Magic are worried, says John Denton.

More on the game after the jump.

Star-divide

Luckily, if there's any team against which Turk can get it going, it's Philadelphia. Last year, he eviscerated the 76ers for 22.5 points per game on 52% shooting, 63% three-point shooting, and 96% free throw shooting. What's more, he added 5.3 rebounds and 7 assists per game. The Magic will need him to make the difference tonight, as Philadelphia's beefed-up its interior defense stands a chance of slowing down Dwight Howard, while Rashard Lewis will likely expend most of his energy on the defensive end trying to keep the stout Brand out of the post.

Oh, and they'll need to count on point guards Jameer Nelson and Anthony Johnson, too. Andre Miller and his backup, Louis Williams, give the Magic trouble because of their size and speed, respectively. Indeed, the 76ers match-up well with the Magic. Hoepfully, Mickael Pietrus, Orlando's own free-agent signee, will be able to keep Andre Iguodala in check. Iguodala re-signed with Philadelphia for 6 years and $80 million, which is probably $20 million too much to pay for a slightly above-average swingman with no jumpshot. Liberty Ballers, SB Nation's 76ers blog, probably disagrees. But I digress.

If you're hoping that J.J. Redick will find his way back into the rotation tonight, as I suspected he might, you'll probably be sorely disappointed. Schmitz says that Stan Van Gundy has no plans to shake-up his rotation any further, and that Courtney Lee has earned playing time. Bummer for J.J., but congratulations to Courtney.

Tip's at 8 on TNT. Go Magic.

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First big game of the season

I’m worried but I think they will get the W

by magic fanatic on Nov 6, 2008 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

I don't disagree.

Where will you be when the Sixers hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy? Hopefully Liberty Ballers.

by Jordan Sams on Nov 6, 2008 11:49 AM EST reply actions  

Lee

… about time he got into the rotation. Glad he got some PT last game. He’ll offer more to the table than J.J. ever will.

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by erivera7 on Nov 6, 2008 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

Magic feeding Lewis early

Intent to get him going, it appears. Then again, it could merely be because Dwight’s out of the game with 2 fouls.

Iggy just picked up his 2nd foul for Philly. Arguably the most bankable stars on either team saddled with early foul trouble on national TV. AWESOME.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 8:28 PM EST reply actions  

Nelson finds Battie underneath

Tony has 6 points in 5 minutes, filling in admirably. Marcin Gortat fans aren’t thrilled, but it’s what’s best for the team right now.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

Lookin good early

Battie with 6 points off the bench and 0 turnovers for the Magic so far!

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

Nice to see the Magic doing well with Howard on the bench with 2 fouls.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

This is probably the best the Magic have looked so far

,,, they’re shooting 50% from the field, and have a 4/1 assist/turnover ratio. Nelson is particularly looking good.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

Great start, but...

They need to keep it up. They have a nasty habit of blowing big leads.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Did anyone think that Howard and Brand would combine for 0 points the first quarter?

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

Nope

Did anyone think the Magic’s bench would get off to such a good start?

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Magic shooting 55%...

with a very good 7/2 assist/turnover ratio. They’re 3 for 3 on threes, too.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 8:48 PM EST reply actions  

Even Doug Collins said that the Magic have moved the ball much better on offense than in previous games.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 8:49 PM EST reply actions  

The threes by the Magic look like they’re coming in the flow of the offense; they’re not forcing them like the last game against the Bulls.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

76ers go small after Dalembert gets his 2nd foul

Elton Brand, at 6’08", now in at center.

Let’s see how their small-ball lineup fares against ours.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 8:57 PM EST reply actions  

The only stat that Philly is doing better...

is that they’ve outrebounded the Magic 15-11 so far.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

After the timeout, here are the lineups

Ivey, Williams, Rush, Iguodala, and Brand for Philly.
Johnson, Pietrus, Turkoglu, Lewis, and Battie for Orlando.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 9:01 PM EST reply actions  

Kareem Rush likes that rim

All his shots roll in and out… then back in. 7 points for the reserve swingman.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

I'm really starting to like this Johnson signing

He doesn’t do too much and plays a great style for SVG’s offense. Of course it’s early, lets see how he plays down the stretch.

by magic fanatic on Nov 6, 2008 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

Certainly different from Arroyo and Dooling

I like it. I used to think he was a 3rd-stringer at best, but he’s proven (so far) to be a capable 2nd-stringer for this team.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree, figured he was a security option. Guess that’s why I’m not a scout.

by magic fanatic on Nov 6, 2008 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

offensive rebounding...

Magic only have one offensive rebound so far; at least they’re shooting 57%.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

We're winning

I got nothing to complain about

by magic fanatic on Nov 6, 2008 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

Magic need to get on the offensive boards

Bad shot, miss, 76ers score. Lather, rinse, and repeat.

I have no idea why Turk isn’t attacking Elton Brand off the dribble. Dude can’t possibly keep up with him.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 9:10 PM EST reply actions  

Philly's making their run now...

Magic are starting to cool off from the field

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 9:10 PM EST reply actions  

B-ball is a game of streaks

They had theres, now we’re having ours. Keep theres short from now on and we should win.

by magic fanatic on Nov 6, 2008 9:13 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah...

Magic 5 of 8 on threes so far

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 9:13 PM EST reply actions  

… but they’re still shooting over 50% from the field with a very good 11/4 assist/turnover ratio

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

Battie's playing great defense

He’s doing a good job bodying-up Brand n transition and not letting him get free for easy buckets.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 9:16 PM EST reply actions  

Dammit, Jameer

Gives up an easy layup to Miller, then dribbles off his knee and out of bounds.

Ugh.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 9:18 PM EST reply actions  

Great awareness by Jameer

Senses the foul coming, chucks it at the rim, earns an extra free throw.

Alright.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

Forget all the complaints

That was a great half against a good team.

by magic fanatic on Nov 6, 2008 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

That's true...

considering Howard played less than five minutes and scored just 2 points.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

Nice first half stats...

Magic shooting 53% from the field, 6 of 10 from three point range, only 5 turnovers with 11 assists.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 9:26 PM EST reply actions  

The only negative for the Magic...

is the rebounding with Philly holding a 28-19 advantage, 9-1 on the offensive boards. Sixers are a perfect 8 for 8 from the line, while the Magic are 8 of 13 free throw shooting.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

Well, Dwight only played five minutes.

by magic fanatic on Nov 6, 2008 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Magic bench...

finished with 11 points in the first half… none in the second quarter. 76ers bench has 16 points.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

Good first half. They held down the house well with Howard on the bench in foul trouble.

Phily look disjointed. They haven’t adjusted to Elton Brand yet.

by NBR on Nov 6, 2008 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

Every Magic player who played the first half...

shot at least 50% from the field (except Johnson, who didn’t attempt a shot).

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

Lewis picks up a foul guarding Brand

But did you see the way defense swarmed Brand once he got the ball? That’s tough.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

Ugh

C’mon, Turk! Senseless carrying violation on the fast break.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

Nelson's assist/turnover ratio...

is 5/3 so far. Hopefully he doesn’t commit any more turnovers.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 10:01 PM EST reply actions  

Dalembert...

is killing us on the offensive boards… but Howard answers.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 10:06 PM EST reply actions  

Dwight, I know you want your points but you have to pass out of triple teams.

by magic fanatic on Nov 6, 2008 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

This is bad. Shouldn’t have the lead like this.

by NBR on Nov 6, 2008 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

Calm down

They still have a big lead

by magic fanatic on Nov 6, 2008 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

Magic need to come back with Nelson

Johnson’s really hurting them right now.

They’re missing their shots, yeah, but they also aren’t getting good looks. Maybe Nelson can fix that.

Doesn’t help that Dalembert is doing a great job on Howard, while Dwight keeps losing track of him.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

Sixers are shooting just 37.5% from the field but are outrebounding the Magic 40-32, including 13-5 on the offensive boards.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

Turk

If your pull a no look layup you better make it

by magic fanatic on Nov 6, 2008 10:16 PM EST reply actions  

Battie gets another big offensive board, but he falls asleep

Lou Williams steals it, converts the transition layup.

Magic lead is 7. Turk has to call timeout because he can’t get the ball in.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 10:17 PM EST reply actions  

Phily have the momentum

by NBR on Nov 6, 2008 10:18 PM EST reply actions  

Brand...

has only scored 4 points so far.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 10:20 PM EST reply actions  

Damn shame Bogans tripped there

He got that long board and was ready to go all the way in transition, but he lost his footing. Foul on Brand.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

76ers not wowing me so far

Magic can really look to put it away here. Philly isnt playing great ball.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

Phily have been poor. They’ve looked worse than I expected throughout preseason and the early regular season games. Starting to get worried about them.

by NBR on Nov 6, 2008 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t have much faith in Mo Cheeks.

Players need to step up, not much leadership on display so far. They’re disorganized on both ends.

by NBR on Nov 6, 2008 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

'Dre Miller's looked bad tonight

Missed 14 of his 19 shots, only 2 assists….. really digging his team a deep hole.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Magic bail out Iguodala right there

He had nowhere to go and was about to throw up an awful shot, but Dwight fouled him. Aggravating.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 10:27 PM EST reply actions  

Here for scouting

I’m disappointed that I’m not getting a chance to evaluate Marcin Gortat.

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 6, 2008 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

And no Redick either!

I think SVG and Eddie Jordan are conspiring against us with their rotations.

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 6, 2008 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

We've seen this from Orlando before

They get a lead in the upper single-digits at home, and they continue to take deep “dagger” 3-pointers instead of working the ball inside to get a higher-percentage shot.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

Yes

But fear not, those will go in against the Wizards. Because 1) Steve “DAGGER!” Buckhantz calling the game and 2) We made Walter Hermann look like Hedo Turkoglu.

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 6, 2008 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Walter Herrmann would look great backing up Lewis/Turkoglu here in Orlando

by NBR on Nov 6, 2008 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

And he’s a free agent this summer. Might cost the mid-level, but he’d probably be worth it.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Only being paid $2mil this season. I couldn’t believe the Pistons got him so cheaply … especially after how they discarded him from their rotation last year.

Pistons got four good big men, a loaded backcourt and Prince at small forward. I’ll be surprised if Herrmann gets as many as 10-12mpg. His lack of minutes should keep that price tag low.

by NBR on Nov 6, 2008 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Andre Miller is Orlando's MVP so far

5-of-22 from the field, 3 of his shots have been blocked. Ugly, ugly, ugly game for him. In a contract year, too.

by Evan Dunlap on Nov 6, 2008 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

Dwight is pretty good with those

!

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by Jake Whitacre on Nov 6, 2008 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Like I said before

We were 2-2 going into tonight, this sins of the seasons start were washed on national tv. Big win against the best team we’ve seen so far. The season has begun.

by magic fanatic on Nov 6, 2008 10:44 PM EST reply actions  

… hopefully they can keep it up.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2008 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

could have been 5-0

but they didn’t deserve to win their first two games. they played with no heart and I was glad they finished on the wrong side of the triple zeros. had they one even one of those games, especially the last, they probably would have thought that they just deserved to win. no my friends you have to go out and earn it. they earned it tonight and on a national stage, they showed why “they are who we thought they were.” o.k., wrong sport. obviously you can tell who my favorite football team is. GO RED (arizona cardinals) and BLUE (orlando magic).

by hevchv on Nov 6, 2008 10:51 PM EST reply actions  

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