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The Denver Nuggets are expected to trade Allen Iverson to the Detroit Pistons for Chauncey Billups and Antonio McDyess, Pistons team sources told ESPN's Stephen A. Smith.

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Gut reaction: Joe Dumars is high

How is an Iverson/Hamilton/Prince/Johnson/Wallace lineup better than the one they have now, especially considering they need to find minutes for Stuckey? Unless they’re planning to let Iverson’s contract expire at season’s end to pursue a 2009 free agent, this deal makes no sense.

Wait. I think I just answered my own question.

by Ben Q Rock on Nov 3, 2008 12:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Who cares if it makes sense, no more Chauncey BBBBBBBillup sin the playoffs! No longer will we see Jameer being pushed around on defense. Jameer and AI play together in Philly, Jameer has had extra practice guarding him. I’m not saying he’ll stop Iverson but I’d rather see him than Billups. Great move for the Pistons!

by magic fanatic on Nov 3, 2008 12:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

More on the Pistons' cap space

From Ghostface Ziller:

If Dumars lets A.I. flee and fails to re-sign aging forward Rasheed Wallace, the Pistons will be looking at upwards of $20 million in cap space in the summer of 2009. The free agent crop is solid — not replete with superstars, but solid. Lamar Odom, Shawn Marion, Hedo Turkoglu, Carlos Boozer, Mehmet Okur, Ben Gordon … there’s a chance Dumars could pick up two of those guys with all his space.

Or — and here’s the scary thought for non-Pistons fans — Dumars could let the freedom ride til the summer of ’10, when Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, Chris Bosh and Amare Stoudemire hit the market. Atonement for the ’03 draft debacle, perhaps?

Yeah, we should be scared now.

by Ben Q Rock on Nov 3, 2008 12:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I couldn't believe it when I read it

And I was trying to figure out why Detroit would make this trade, but thanks for explaining the logic of it to us, Ben. It makes more sense now.

by Marie on Nov 3, 2008 12:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well, thats not important right now. What is important is that for 2 years running Billups has burned us in the playoffs. I my eyes these two teams even more without Billups in the eqaution.

I like a Jameer/AI matchup in a playoff series because they are very similar players and they know each other well. With McDyess gone it’s one less body in the middle to hack Dwight. This deal is good for us right now. Who cares what happens in 2010.

by magic fanatic on Nov 3, 2008 2:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Smokin'!!!

This trade brings Detroit back down to the pack. No more elite status, no more 55 + wins. They are officially rebuilding, and the future is bright.

And WOW for Denver! I think Billups/J.R. Smith/Carmelo/K-Mart/Nene is a lineup that can get it done. The Western Conference playoffs are now set, though in no particular order.

'Coach, Dwight is a nice guy. Dwight don't hit anybody. But Superman will knock the crap out of you.' - D12

by Eyriq the Red on Nov 3, 2008 3:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but that bench is still horrible and the team still plays terrible defense. Billups instantly becomes the best defender on that team.

by magic fanatic on Nov 3, 2008 3:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bench

… it’s not THAT bad. Anthony Carter becomes a serviceable back-up, Kleiza is solid, and McDyess will contribute. I think ‘thin’ is a more applicable word then terrible.

Contributing Writer for DePaul's Scout.com website.
Class of 2009 - DePaul University

by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2008 5:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nevermind

Looks like Denver is going to waive McDyess, so yes, what I figured would be a thin bench now will be one that applicably sucks.

Contributing Writer for DePaul's Scout.com website.
Class of 2009 - DePaul University

by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2008 6:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

… yeah, since McDyess will be waived. Not good for Denver.

Contributing Writer for DePaul's Scout.com website.
Class of 2009 - DePaul University

by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2008 6:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He's going to re-sign with the Pistons after 30 days, which helps them

I doubt they wanted to have to play Kwame Brown heavy minutes in relief of Rasheed Wallace for the rest of the season.

The 30-day loophole thing needs to close, though. It’s ridiculous.

by Ben Q Rock on Nov 3, 2008 6:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not so bad, even if the Pistons do pick up Amare, Bosh or even LBJ in 2010…
My reasoning being, their current lineup of stars (Hamilton, Wallace, Prince) will be 2 years older by then, or possibly even gone from the team. Pistons look like they are accepting the current squad can’t get it done and the time to rebuild is now.

So in 2010, is a Pistons line up of LeBron (or Wade or Bosh for that matter) and either 4 old guys any worse for the Magic than a current Cavs, Heat or Raps? seems unless the pistons have plans to put other big names around such stars, its same game, just a different city name on the LeBron’s (Wade’s, Bosh’s etc) jersey.

by FLYNN47 on Nov 3, 2008 5:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thoughts

Good for the Magic now, bad for the future.

Helps us now because obviously we don’t have to deal with Billups anymore in the playoffs for this year potentially. However, we WILL have to deal with Stuckey now for the foreseeable, which will be a problem because he’s just as big as Billups and has the potential to be ever better than Chauncey.

Also, as some of you have already mentioned, the Pistons do themselves a favor by clearing up cap space for a crazy Free Agent class coming up in 2009 & 2010.

Contributing Writer for DePaul's Scout.com website.
Class of 2009 - DePaul University

by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2008 5:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

… correction, I meant to say for the foreseeable future.

Contributing Writer for DePaul's Scout.com website.
Class of 2009 - DePaul University

by erivera7 on Nov 3, 2008 5:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pistons extend Hamilton

3 years, $34 million, although the third year is only partially guaranteed. ESPN story.

by Ben Q Rock on Nov 3, 2008 6:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dwight Howard's take

“Yeah, that’s going to change them because that’s ‘Big Shot Chauncey’ and he always set the tempo for that team,” Magic center Dwight Howard said. “Obviously their young point guard, (Rodney) Stuckey, is excellent and they believe in him. Detroit is still going to have a great team regardless of what changes they make.”

(Denton)

by Ben Q Rock on Nov 4, 2008 4:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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